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Williams substitute?

I found this soap on Amazon and the reviews seem to compare it to William's. Has anyone tried this?
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nemo

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Where's the potassium? Soaps without it usually don't have very stable lather.

Do a search, you won't find many positive comments.

Why not get a proven traditional soap instead of rolling the dice on a Chinese product.

P.S.
Amazon reviews? Pfft
 
Where's the potassium? Soaps without it usually don't have very stable lather.

Do a search, you won't find many positive comments.

Why not get a proven traditional soap instead of rolling the dice on a Chinese product.

P.S.
Amazon reviews? Pfft
Darn. I was hoping maybe, just maybe...but no, it is not meant to be.
 
Are you looking for a tallow base soap? A good lower cost one is Cyril R Salter Solid Soap that costs about $4.50 / 100g at Connaught in the UK. Pasteur's also carries it at a higher price.

If you are looking for a veggie base soap, hard to beat the Razorock Black Label, Green Label, etc. which are made to drop into a mug and last a long time. Look for a sale on the soap bundles from Razorock. I got four 100g pucks for around $2.50 each.

For veggie base soaps, overall I like Haslinger. If you order from Europe the small 60g pucks are about $5 each and last several months.
 
Are you looking for a tallow base soap? A good lower cost one is Cyril R Salter Solid Soap that costs about $4.50 / 100g at Connaught in the UK. Pasteur's also carries it at a higher price.

If you are looking for a veggie base soap, hard to beat the Razorock Black Label, Green Label, etc. which are made to drop into a mug and last a long time. Look for a sale on the soap bundles from Razorock. I got four 100g pucks for around $2.50 each.

For veggie base soaps, overall I like Haslinger. If you order from Europe the small 60g pucks are about $5 each and last several months.
I have a couple of pucks of Cyril R Salter on order.
 
It seems with PdP everybody goes for the #63 but the original (now called Bergamot & Thyme) is the same soap base and usually sells for less. The scent is fine, IMHO. Good for warmer weather.

Either one lasts a really long time. I remember estimating you could get over 300 shaves from one puck. It helps to have a firm brush since this soap is so hard.
 

Steve56

Ask me about shaving naked!
My vote for a milled soap is also Pre de Provence. Maggards has it and has a site wide sale going on. If you have trouble lathering it, try a good quality synthetic brush.
 
My Cyril R. Salter pucks (100gm.) arrived and I did a lather test and 1 pass shave. The lavender scent is stronger than I expected, but fortunately I like the scent of lavender. I imagine the scent will dissipate somewhat over time. The scent and feel of tallow was present as well. It produced a good lather that was full and lasting.

The size of the puck is a bit large for my vintage porcelain restaurant mug, but with use it will fit. I am quite pleased and will order more. I will definately add this soap to my rotation. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
My Cyril R. Salter pucks (100gm.) arrived and I did a lather test and 1 pass shave. The lavender scent is stronger than I expected, but fortunately I like the scent of lavender. I imagine the scent will dissipate somewhat over time. The scent and feel of tallow was present as well. It produced a good lather that was full and lasting.

The size of the puck is a bit large for my vintage porcelain restaurant mug, but with use it will fit. I am quite pleased and will order more. I will definately add this soap to my rotation. Thanks for the suggestion.

There is a 70g puck also (about 2.5 oz.). It is curved on one side and will fit a smaller mug or dish. This soap is soft enough that it can be carved with a sharp knife.

The scent is stronger at first but will fade in a few weeks if left open in a mug. It becomes a mild mix of lavender and some citrus (I think).

You will probably find this soap becomes even easier to lather after it has been used a few times.
 
Use bath soap from around the house. There’s a cult that has grown up around soaps and lather that is unnecessary and unhelpful. All you need is a slick surface for the blade to glide smoothly over the skin. It’s not rocket science and it’s not an art form.

Any soap will do. You have what you need in the soap dish.
 
Use bath soap from around the house. There’s a cult that has grown up around soaps and lather that is unnecessary and unhelpful. All you need is a slick surface for the blade to glide smoothly over the skin. It’s not rocket science and it’s not an art form.

Any soap will do. You have what you need in the soap dish.
Not that I would use bath soap specifically but definitely agree with the obsession about mounds of lather, or put another way, air bubbles.
 
Why not try bath soap? Break free from the cult.

The Cyril Salter shaving soap that Rusty got is a hard milled soap that lasts a long time and is much less expensive to use that most "artisan" shaving soaps. Performs much better than Williams Mug, for sure.

Some bath soaps will work OK (e.g. Ivory), but wouldn't be my first choice. Bath soaps are made for cleaning the skin and strip away skin oil, which may be drying. Most bath soaps produce suds that aren't as stable as shaving soap lather is. Dedicated shaving soaps with higher stearic acid content are made to be slick and to produce a stable lather. Why not consider it might be worth it to some people to spend a few bucks to make their shaving more enjoyable?
 
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