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What's wrong with the Progress?

I don't know why but I got a little heated from reading a post about the Mergress selling out in half an hour at Lee's Razors.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=184318&highlight=mergress

I'm not gonna lie......the Mergress does look pretty cool!! And I guess without the plastic cap on the end the added weight makes for a great shave. But selling out in half an hour!!? It must be the holy grail of razors. It seems to be the same as a Progress just with a metal cap on the end and better adjustment. But I think mainly people want it because it looks better. I'm a loyal Progress fan. I've been using my Progress for a good 2 years now and I love it. I think the plastic knob gives it character since not a whole lot of other razors look like it. And I've read about the problems of not being able to dial it back down to 1. I don't know if my razor just happens to be the exception but I've never had that problem. When I put on a new blade I can dial it back down to 1 every time. So I guess the Mergress might be a great razor but I'm gonna keep using my Progress until I can't use it no more!!
 
The progress is a great razor and in my opinion one of the best. However, the mergress is a great razor made better with the added weight, painting, zeroing, and polishing of the mechanism. It doesn't surprise me that they will sell out quickly. I think that wet shaving has grown quite a bit over the past few years and the mergress operation remains a one man team.
 
The LONG HANDLE Progress eliminates the need for the "Mergress"! Rest assured if a classic Gillette had a plastic knob on the end, there would be enough drooling over it today to fill a bathroom sink!:lol:

Some posters bash the plastic knob, yet I've seen a picture of a single die attached to the end as an "improvement" - better for CRAPs?:lol:

The Progress is the least expensive current production adjustable razor on the market, with an extremely simple mechanism, and very elegant lines. Use it for great shaves - modify it if you have to go to a casino..:biggrin1:
 
I loved my progress and it was my favorite adjustable for awhile. it went unused after I bought my slant to the point where I almost sold it.

I decided to use the profits from one sale to upgrade it to a Mergress. I was floored at the difference it made. I honestly didn't think it would make that huge of difference. but the smoothness of the adjustable scale as well as the difference in weight made a huge difference. besides I had green dots added so now it looks cool :thumbup1:

I think I may even sell my slant now and go back to my mergress exclusively.
 
I know mantic says "you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands" about the Progress.

I've got a Mergress, I think the Progress looks great as well. As long as it shaves well, that's all that matters.

- Aaron
 
My next razor purchase is probably going to be a 39C Sledgehammer. Just because of the great reviews and tough beard that I have. But I really want to see if the added weight of the Mergress really makes it better than my Progress. I might buy a Mergress next (whenever Lee's gets some back in) and if I don't like it then sell it for my 39C. No harm no foul I guess.
 
The LONG HANDLE Progress eliminates the need for the "Mergress"! Rest assured if a classic Gillette had a plastic knob on the end, there would be enough drooling over it today to fill a bathroom sink!:lol:

Some posters bash the plastic knob, yet I've seen a picture of a single die attached to the end as an "improvement" - better for CRAPs?:lol:

The Progress is the least expensive current production adjustable razor on the market, with an extremely simple mechanism, and very elegant lines. Use it for great shaves - modify it if you have to go to a casino..:biggrin1:

I'm sorry you didn't like that version Mark. It was a custom design that the buyer requested and he was happy with it. Regardless of the style knob requested, the basic razor still had all the improvements that I put in to every conversion I do. I'm glad you are happy with the stock Progress. Many people are because it's a great razor. I just make a few modifications that I feel make it a little better. Some people don't feel this way and that's OK too. Lucky for us we have a lot of options in the shaving world and there is a razor for everyone.

Take Care,

Eric
 
I'm sorry you didn't like that version Mark. It was a custom design that the buyer requested and he was happy with it. Regardless of the style knob requested, the basic razor still had all the improvements that I put in to every conversion I do. I'm glad you are happy with the stock Progress. Many people are because it's a great razor. I just make a few modifications that I feel make it a little better. Some people don't feel this way and that's OK too. Lucky for us we have a lot of options in the shaving world and there is a razor for everyone.

Take Care,

Eric

Merkur could have made the lugs on the top cap of different size/shape so it could only be assembled the correct way - a mod to the current razor would mean cutting thru the plating somewhere, exposing the base metal to water damage. The plastic knob on the base could be made of a less brittle plastic, and ideally, set in a metal cup to act as a bumper! Attention at assembly time would allow the numbered sleeve to line up correctly, or the numbers could be replaced entirely by a series of dots with an icon above shaped like the volume control a radio (the wedge shape). These mods would increase the razor price, however. Owing to the wonderfully simple design, another company (like Parker) could come out with a version having these basic improvements for an attractive price.
Gillette did have a plastic knob razor - the Blacktip Superspeed - which I believe uses nylon. The material does not seem to be brittle.

Yes, Eric, there is a DE razor for every taste and budget - It really seems here on B&B, though, that certain items (like the Progress) get a disproportionate amount of bashing.
 
I'm sorry you didn't like that version Mark. It was a custom design that the buyer requested and he was happy with it. Regardless of the style knob requested, the basic razor still had all the improvements that I put in to every conversion I do. I'm glad you are happy with the stock Progress. Many people are because it's a great razor. I just make a few modifications that I feel make it a little better. Some people don't feel this way and that's OK too. Lucky for us we have a lot of options in the shaving world and there is a razor for everyone.

Take Care,

Eric

I don't want anyone to think that I'm bashing on the Mergress at all. It looks like an impressive piece of hardware. And there has to be a reason why so many people love it. I just feel like Mark said that the Progress gets bashed a lot. Even though people say it's a good razor, but that it has too many problems. Like I said earlier my Progress seems to be pretty much perfect. At least it's perfect for me. I very well might try the Mergress and feel like it's better than my Progress. But at the end of the day the Mergress wouldn't be a Mergress if it wasn't for the Progress. That's all I'm saying....if I said anything at all. :001_smile
 
I just got a Progress and honestly I'm more than a little disappointed with it. Can someone tell me if I just got a bad one? In mine the adjustment orientation is fine, but there is a lot of slop in the blade itself. With the head oriented correctly and the knob tightened all the way down to the 1 setting, the blade doesn't sit evenly in relation to the guard. I can push on the exposed sides of the blade and wiggle it around. This can't be normal, can it?
 
The metal knob does a lot more than just make the Progress look better ... it offers better balance and more weight, and it turns a mediocre razor into a GREAT one.

I got a used Progress, and with the plastic knob it gives so-so shaves. Once I upgraded it with a metal knob, it's like turbo-charging the performance.

I don't know of any Mergress owner that would go back to using the stock version once they have the upgrade.
 
Well my Merkur Progress has arrived. It's deceivably heavy compared to my Merkur HD. I could swear the makers of Merkur razors must have a hidden connection to the builders of some country's main battle tanks.

I'm editing the rest of this post. I'll have to look at Mantic's video again. Using this thing escapes me now. I'll have a stab at it in the morning.
 
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I have two Mergresses, the regular and XL. The best razors I have ever used. I tried the original Progress and had it for a few months before Eric converted it. I liked it so much I ordered an XL Progress and had it shipped to Eric for modification. Both are superb razors.

The original problem I had with the Progress was that the blade adjustment appeared to be off. When I tightened it, it would go substantially below the 1 setting. As a result shaving with a 1 setting was aggressive. The conversion fixed this problem and provided more balance to the razor.
 
I enjoy using my Progress and I think it's a decent modern day adjustable, nothing wrong with it. I would like to get a Mergress I think it looks cool but it's always out of stock.
 
just be absolutely sure to line up the razor cap correctly. the notch must meet the arrow or the head is turned around and won't shave properly.

i wish they'd outline the notch in paint or make it deeper. it's not very obvious, especially if you don't read the instructions.
 
just be absolutely sure to line up the razor cap correctly. the notch must meet the arrow or the head is turned around and won't shave properly.

i wish they'd outline the notch in paint or make it deeper. it's not very obvious, especially if you don't read the instructions.

That's why I asked Eric to paint the two marks or notches. View attachment 140643
 
just be absolutely sure to line up the razor cap correctly. the notch must meet the arrow or the head is turned around and won't shave properly.

i wish they'd outline the notch in paint or make it deeper. it's not very obvious, especially if you don't read the instructions.

Those marks only deal with how the adjustments read, if you put the head on backwards the settings will read 180 degrees off.
Putting the head on backwards has no effect on how the razor shaves.
All the other Merkurs with heads attached to the handle use the same cap except for the adjustment mark and their caps can be put on any way you want.
Think about it, the cap is symmetrical and how it's it's install should have no effect on blade exposure.
 
I just got a Progress and honestly I'm more than a little disappointed with it. Can someone tell me if I just got a bad one? In mine the adjustment orientation is fine, but there is a lot of slop in the blade itself. With the head oriented correctly and the knob tightened all the way down to the 1 setting, the blade doesn't sit evenly in relation to the guard. I can push on the exposed sides of the blade and wiggle it around. This can't be normal, can it?

I don't think so. It sounds like you might have a defective one. I have two Progress razors and a Futur, but none of them have a blade that moves around in the head.

I think I would send it back to the vendor and ask them to check it out.
 
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