Finishing on running water, oil or as I do with a few drops of glycerine (washing up liquid or shave soap) really bumps up the edge.
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Wow, what a bounty. Looking forward to your writeup about your first coticule shave. It's a different world, shaving with a coticule edge. Not so keen and detailed, but so comfortable that some shavers settle there and consider all other edges less desirable.
Here's hoping that you got one of those coticules that can go fine enough to make a good shaving edge. It is absolutely essential to go down to just water, no slurry (running water is the extra-assured version of that) to get the best shaving edge. Coticules are weird, or at least it felt weird to me to take an eBay special that was in pretty good shape, and go all the way from bevel set to shaving edge, changing only the proportion of slurry to water along the way, all on the same stone.
I always have a few razors on which I keep a coticule edge, for those days when I value comfort over precision.
Here's hoping that you got one of those coticules that can go fine enough to make a good shaving edge. It is absolutely essential to go down to just water, no slurry (running water is the extra-assured version of that) to get the best shaving edge. Coticules are weird, or at least it felt weird to me to take an eBay special that was in pretty good shape, and go all the way from bevel set to shaving edge, changing only the proportion of slurry to water along the way, all on the same stone.
I always have a few razors on which I keep a coticule edge, for those days when I value comfort over precision.
That sir looks to be a top quality coticule.
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If you want that to be your only coticule do not visit the coticule love page on this forum.
Some of these coticule respond well to different levels of surface conditioning. If the stone is used more for finishing and refreshing the stone can cut significantly faster, and hopefully burnish along the way, and give you a nice finish.
Wet sandpaper (if you don't have a suitable dressing stone) can work fine.
The effect is highly stone dependent, but can be a nice feature with harder coticules.
I'd be curious what kind of range it has on slurry. The light autoslurry you described is pretty similar to how mine finishes on water. Visually similar, too. Mine is sits pretty well in the mid-range to finish slot. I did set a bevel with it once, just to see if I could. It's possible but not something I'd do unless I was forced to by circumstance.
I'd look for a nice little slurry stone, diamond plate slurry on a coti isn't always nice to an edge. And as others have suggested, give it a try finishing with oil. For me that bumps up the keenness to a level that I can't always get consistently on water only.
I'd look for a nice little slurry stone, diamond plate slurry on a coti isn't always nice to an edge. And as others have suggested, give it a try finishing with oil. For me that bumps up the keenness to a level that I can't always get consistently on water only.
I'll second this with also saying that a fine, soft slurry stone is ideal. I've got a couple small lpb slurry stones that are perfect for this.
Coticules are magical stones. Don't be afraid to experiment and learn, The stone has much to teach you.
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rbscebu
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I am reluctant to use oil on the Coticule for fear of the oil impregnating the stone. My preference is for a lather with the final finishing laps.
I have not used an outside developed slurry on this whetstone. For now I will stick with the very light slurry auto-developed while honing. I like to learn slowly.
I have not used an outside developed slurry on this whetstone. For now I will stick with the very light slurry auto-developed while honing. I like to learn slowly.
It's usually pretty easy to wash the oil off, worst case is you have to raise up a small slurry. I have seen so many stones that appeared to be used with oil and all it took was a quick lapping and it was fine. Here is one coticule that when I originally got it, appeared it was used with oil only Lightly lapping it and it was a water stone again (only reason it took the middle longer was because it was dished). Now I use it on and off with water or oil, and a simple wipe down after.
This next stone is my normal go to. I like to finish under running water or oil with this one. It is very hard though so oil comes off easily with water. (If your only going to use the stone for finishing then it would be silly not to give it a try! )
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rbscebu
Girls call me Makaluod
First I want to max out with what I've got. Then I might try things like oil and outsourced slurries. That's the way I learn.
Get familiar with the stone and just use it as a finisher for now. Plenty of time to learn.
Oil won't penetrate as coticules are not porous I do prefer prorasos lather on them if I go a non water route.
My experience is that oil generates a keener edge than water. I have had good experience using oil with my stainless steel Friodur 72-V. I seem to prefer water with my old Sheffields.
The term lather means different things to different people. For some, the term means slurry. For others, it means lather made from soap.
Just remember that slurry contains garnets. If you want to finish with minimum garnets, rinse the stone, rinse your blade, and wipe the blade.
I am also new to Coticule world, but some of my best edges have ended with only water after rinsing all slurry. Like keeping your diamond paste on balsa strops separated.
Just remember that slurry contains garnets. If you want to finish with minimum garnets, rinse the stone, rinse your blade, and wipe the blade.
I am also new to Coticule world, but some of my best edges have ended with only water after rinsing all slurry. Like keeping your diamond paste on balsa strops separated.
I don’t like honing under running water but at the end I do rinse the coti and razor often to keep both clean.
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