Full Windsor
What is your preferred tie knot?
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Oriental.
Four in hand.
Pretty much a Half Windsor for me. I'm trying to get myself into the Four in Hand, but it's not really sticking.
I had to look it up. My father had promised to teach me how to tie a necktie, but never got around to it. I ended up carefully untying a clip-on tie, and imitating that knot, with my neck in place of the clip. That's how I tie a necktie to this day. It turns out it's called a four-in-hand knot.
I've tinkered with the Windsor and Half-Windsor, but have an issue of the tie long enough. I'm a mere 6'2" (1.88m), but have a problem with the tie long enough. If I still had a three-piece suit, it wouldn't be a problem. Will have to look into the Pratt Knot mentioned above.
I've tinkered with the Windsor and Half-Windsor, but have an issue of the tie long enough. I'm a mere 6'2" (1.88m), but have a problem with the tie long enough. If I still had a three-piece suit, it wouldn't be a problem. Will have to look into the Pratt Knot mentioned above.
Bow.
And fairly thick ... not the squeezed-super-skinny knot you get from thin-fabric ties ...
And fairly thick ... not the squeezed-super-skinny knot you get from thin-fabric ties ...
1/2 windsor for most ties, full for some. I do have a couple of knit ties that were made for me that I use four-in-hand. otherwise the knot would be wider than my head. My daughter made me a tie out of duct tape which I've never been able to successfully tie (that was the year she made her prom dress from duct tape).
Not certain, but it may be four in hand. If not that one of the Windsors.
Reverse engineer, or try a new one!
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Don
tankerjohn
A little poofier than I prefer
Try the four in hand. It uses less tie for the knot, so you can get it a bit longer. Also, you might to get a few extra long ties, if you don't have them already.
I had to wear a tie every day elementary through high school and it was always a four-in-hand, though none of us ever knew what it was called.
Since I joined the Army after college the staple became a windsor (full) and since I am in a suit daily it has remained that way ever since. Dressing up or down a look has become a function of choosing the right tie, and not changing the knot.
Since I joined the Army after college the staple became a windsor (full) and since I am in a suit daily it has remained that way ever since. Dressing up or down a look has become a function of choosing the right tie, and not changing the knot.
After googling it - Four in Hand. Sometimes a half Windsor but not very often.
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I thought I had been doing a Half Windsor all these years but now realize it is the Four In Hand. At some point many years ago I remember trying something new, a Windsor, and realized I didn’t like the look of a large knot. The 4IH works nicely for me.
trinity knot, but learned the full windsor originally
Back when I wore non-bow ties, I found that the thickness of the tie material & lining would dictate the best knot. I was fond of getting my tie knots rather tight, as well, which would make them smaller than a more loosely-tied knot.
Most of my ties were (are) printed or woven silk with a moderately thick lining, so a tight Windsor looked good to me. Or sometimes half-windsor. Thicker knit ties (grenadine silk for example) or wool/tweed ties needed a different knot, usually 4-in-H.
I found that the Windsor would give a symmetrical knot, which I found "dressier", and suited to a formal silk tie. The more casual grenadine or wool/tweed ties looked better with a slightly more (to my eyes) casual asymmetry of the 4-in-H.
it absolutely depends on the collar. unless you have a spread collar, a windsor will look kind of ridiculous. for most average point collars, i'll use a nicky/pratt knot. for narrower collars, a 4inH or a simple.
The collar does, quite right, affect knot choice. (Fundamentally, it affects tie choice, and the tie choice results in the knot choice.) I don't think one is necessarily required to go so far as a spread collar (and the definition or amount of spread involved varies according to different opinions) for a Windsor knot ... but again, it depends in large part upon the thickness of the tie and the tightness of the knot.
I get a kick out of this ... two world leaders (who lean different ways on the political spectrum) with 4-in-H knots leaning different ways (as well).
Why the Windsor is better:
Not because POTUS 40 is better than POTUS 41 ... but because it looks better.
Why the Windsor is better:
Not because POTUS 40 is better than POTUS 41 ... but because it looks better.
of course we're speaking in generalities...it's not like i'm going to try to sausage a heavy weight wool tie with a windsor into a narrow point collar.
the windsor is a very formal knot. i usually even won't tie a windsor unless i want to look super boss. the knot is too bulky, eats a lot of tie real estate...which is a real issue depending on the length, etc. if i want a medium-sized, symmetrical knot, i'd tie a pratt
. it's my go to for most situations.
the windsor is a very formal knot. i usually even won't tie a windsor unless i want to look super boss. the knot is too bulky, eats a lot of tie real estate...which is a real issue depending on the length, etc. if i want a medium-sized, symmetrical knot, i'd tie a pratt
. it's my go to for most situations.
