SIG P938 in a IWB holster ~80% of the time with a spare mag in a pocket or IWB mag carrier. LCP Custom in the pocket for the balance.
Looks like your set.
Generally so. I sometimes rotate items. If I plan on doing some more work I’ll swap the knife and micro tool for a Charge TTi. If I’m going camping I’ll bring more than one light. So on and so forth. The Microtech is more of a fun knife than anything so if I need a knife that won’t fail to fire I’ll take something like my Strider SnG or a Spyderco Paramilitary 2 if I don’t want to lose my knife. So on and so forth. I’ve been into EDC gear for a while. An account on EDCForums as well plus accounts on CPF and a few gun sites. My wife can attest that I get a little crazy over gear.
Multi-pocket BDU's are your friend.
Sweet gun and holster! I like seeing a holster that actually looks like it has been used!!!
In the Office with Jacket: Glock Sport Combat Holster.
In the Field with Polo Shirt: Uncle Mike's Ballistic Nylon Pancake Holster with Retention Strap.
Indoor Training: Uncle Mike's Reflex Holster with Internal Retention.
Outdoor Training: BlackHawk Serpa CQC Holster with Finger Release Auto Lock Retention.
I'm curious, Rob...
Different holsters between training and duty carry? Based on the general theme of your previous posts on handguns, it kind of doesn't sound like, well, you!
Don
Well Don, I don't know if i'm sure of what you mean by "general theme?" Ya might have to quote me a couple of those past posts of mine, so I can understand what you mean? Also not sure of "previous post on handguns?"
I think I can give an adequate explanation on your question, "Different holsters between training and duty carry?
First I'll give you a little background. Most patrol officers who work the street Don, can tell you, that there are two different types of training with their issued duty carry pistols. Formal training and informal training.
"Formal Training" Don, requires the officer to be in their full duty gear. This usually, consists of their issued duty belt, which most likely carries a level 3 retention duty holster, double magazine holder, flashlight, two pairs of handcuffs, baton/ASP and /or X26 Taser and holster. Most likely, they are in full uniform also, whether it's street gear or Class A.
"Informal Training" Don, usually consists of a more casual approach, like learning new techniques or inter department training with officers from many different departments and is outside of the training spectrum of an officers official capacity and standard operating procedures for their specific department.
I don't know of any officer, who doesn't incorporate, own, have, use or apply, another type holster, off duty, informal type holster/'s to or with their actual duty gear that they use on patrol. There are other officers here, past and present, who should be able to verify this. I worked patrol my first 8 years from 97' to 05'. Three of those as a Patrol Sergeant.
I was promoted to a Training Sergeant in 2005 and spent 10 years as an academy instructor and field training officer. Our department hiring and training, cycles every year annually. This means I got to wear informal holsters training cadets in the academy for 6 months during the winter & spring; and I wore a full duty uniform & gear training rookies for 6 months on the street in their FTO phases, in summer & fall.
So in thinking about it, there's a pretty good chance that I have most likely, clocked many hundreds of training hours more, on all my holsters separately, than the "average civilian carry" does, on a single holster Don.
For myself personally now, I haven't worn a duty belt or patrolled the street in almost 2 years, since my last promotion. 90% of my time, is in an office behind a desk and the other 10% in the field. If I'm behind a desk I am in a suit or dress shirt and slacks. If I am in the field, I am on call and have been awakened from bed to respond to an incident, or one of my officers has gotten themselves into some deep do do and I have been summoned to get it straightened out.
So what you see in that first photo I posted Don, is my duty gear. Unless I have been invited to attend a parade to wave at the people, or am filling in for the Chief or the Major at a "Dog & Pony Show," I try to stay away from the Class A monkey suit as much as I can.
In the second photo, you see the two holsters I used for a decade in the academy training many, countless cadets. The first holster in that pic, I used strictly for classroom. That's why it still looks so clean and pretty. The Blackhawk spent all it's time on an outdoor range and it has seen the dirt & gravel up close, many times. Other then training cadets, I will use them for when I am in search of my own personal training.
In fact, I am actually doing my yearly qual's tomorrow morning and then sitting in a class afterwards to get my yearly hours in, on Mental Health. So will again, be using both of those holster tomorrow.
The third pic, is of my off duty holsters. Most people who carry, that I know of anyway, whether civilian or off duty LE, either have or want an IWB and OWB. holster. My IWB for hot weather, is the Uncle Mike's inside the pant. I'm pretty sure I have stated this fact here for years and even have gotten teased about it's "cheapness?"
In the winter, I switch to the same polymer Glock holster that I use at work in the office when i am wearing a suit jacket. All of these holster I have used for 15 years or more maybe with many hours of training on each one and many years of carry with each one. So to me, I don't see the inconsistency of which you speak?
Once I retire, I plan on beginning a new chapter in civilian paradise and most likely will be down to just two brand spanking new, shiny, pretty, leather holsters for my pretty to me, Ruger SP 101 and my brand spanking new 1911.
(which I am hoping, will be a Springfield)
and my brand spanking new 1911.
(which I am hoping, will be a Springfield)
I wasn't browbeating you, and certainly not challenging your experience as an LE officer.
Thematically, you seem to be a "train with what you'll use" kind of guy. I thought that by using different holsters for training and for carry seemed unusual. They don't all draw the same.
I'm no expert, just curious as to the reasons for having different holsters for training and for EDC. Honestly, I hope I NEVER have to draw and fire on someone.
Don
I see Don's point (use only one thing so it's habit) but your post is very well put. I understand and agree completely.
I was on patrol for years, and a patrol supervisor for years, and misdemeanor investigator for a few years, then a felony investigator for for the DA's office for awhile.
I have duty gear, OWB and IWB holsters, shoulder holsters, ankle holsters (which I hate) and also pocket carry. I know how to use them all...with different types and models of firearms. And nothing is plastic. I don't know what I'd do if I was restricted to only one carry or type of firearm option. That ain't gonna happen.
There is hope for Rob's redemption yet! Would you like some links to some nice stocks and some good leather holsters?