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Hard enough to pronounce your silly name! Who gave it to you anyway??
You were pesky, threatening and turned out to be zilch!!
Don't bother anyone else!

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I was interested in the use of bitters for this one. Next time I will use no bitters and fresh squeezed lemon juice instead of Limoncello. That is Oprah’s favorite honey, by the way. Walker Farms in North Fort Myers, Florida. I get beeswax from them to make surf wax!
 
It was not sweet at all. It had kind of an ammonia like taste. I will try again and see if it grows on me.

I am with TexLaw, that does not sound right at all. I would try the individual ingredients separately to see if you like them. You may not like rye. I suppose rye has medicinal notes. I would not have said ammonia. As you indicated you had not tried rye previously. I would agree with others--at least what others are implying--that Martini & Rossi red vermouth is not very good, and might be a turn off. Carpano Antica is wonderful, but expensive. I love Dolan's dry vermouth. My guess is the red is good. Aside from the vermouth the rest of your ingredientes are solid. Stirring with ice chills and dilutes and I think both are appropriate for a Manhattan. I do not think 45 seconds is excessive and is consistent with the way I was taught to make a Manhattan. I would also not consider a Manhattan a beginner's cocktail. They are strong and powerfully flavored. I am not saying you are a beginner.
 
I am with TexLaw, that does not sound right at all. I would try the individual ingredients separately to see if you like them. You may not like rye. I suppose rye has medicinal notes. I would not have said ammonia. As you indicated you had not tried rye previously. I would agree with others--at least what others are implying--that Martini & Rossi red vermouth is not very good, and might be a turn off. Carpano Antica is wonderful, but expensive. I love Dolan's dry vermouth. My guess is the red is good. Aside from the vermouth the rest of your ingredientes are solid. Stirring with ice chills and dilutes and I think both are appropriate for a Manhattan. I do not think 45 seconds is excessive and is consistent with the way I was taught to make a Manhattan. I would also not consider a Manhattan a beginner's cocktail. They are strong and powerfully flavored. I am not saying you are a beginner.

I am liking the Rye in my Old Fashions so I am thinking that either I have bad vermouth or I had a flavor expectation with the Manhattan that threw me. I will try a different sweet vermouth and see where that takes it. I am a beginner when it comes to cocktails so you may be right about a more acquired taste for it. Thank you for the Carpano Antica suggestion.
 
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I was interested in the use of bitters for this one. Next time I will use no bitters and fresh squeezed lemon juice instead of Limoncello. That is Oprah’s favorite honey, by the way. Walker Farms in North Fort Myers, Florida. I get beeswax from them to make surf wax!
I like the combination of fresh squeezed lemon juice and limoncello. It adds a bit more depth of flavor
 
Thank you for the Carpano Antica suggestion.
You are welcome. It is going to increase your vermouth costs a lot and increase your dissatisfaction with drinks made with lesser vermouths.

I had my first Manhattan. at least one I liked, at Haynes Street Grill in San Francisco where the bartender told me they had done a month long contest to determine the best Manhattan, which they named after a regular customer. This winner was said to be Michter's regular rye bottling, which, as I recall is single barrel, although Michter's contracts out all of its production; Carpano Antica (3 to 1, as I recall); and a strip of lemon zest. They were very clear, no bitters and no cherry. Stirred over ice for a substantial time and served up. (FWIW, I went back to this bar about 12 years later and the then bartender had no idea what I was talking about, except they did have a Manhattan named after a long ago regular customer.) This was also my first experience with a rye I liked and with Carpano Antica. I was blown away.

In the time since, I have found other ryes I like as much or better, and find I prefer to have Angostura bitters and a cherry of my own processing in my drink. I am neither here nor there on a lemon strip. I have not found a vermouth I like better than the Carpano, but there are many good ones out there. Nevertheless, I suppose I can see some value in a stripped down version of this immortal cocktail.
 
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