Interesting. I have the left head and right handle . Didn’t know that. Thanks!Dutch to the left.
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The one in the third picture is gorgeous!! Wow!Here’s most of the few non-Gillettes that I have kept - all nice shavers too On top I have a Red Ring, a Shavex and a couple of Rotbarts.
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The one in the third picture is gorgeous!! Wow!
So, what am I missing, what can you recommend?
I had already suggested that to you several months ago but i take the risk to do it again
--> the Gibbs #9
But i understand quite well that its price, due to its high rarety, can be dissuasive...
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You own that Gibbs?
Damn, those are quite rare and I saw one a few months ago on Ebay and it was sold for over $500.
Unfortunately, i don't. I took this photo on the web, i shoud've specified it in my previous message...
If i had had one, i would have sent it to you to allow you to test it...
Several months ago, i saw one as well in NOS condition with its original case for "only" 350 €... And an other one in excellent condition with its original case for 250 €.
But i do know that @Cha-wing!! is an absolute lover of this Gibbs #9 and he owns 2 copies of it, if i'm not mistaken.
A french dude named Filslade dropped by to his house and he tested it. They made a video. You can see it at 10:15 minutes & at 22:17 minutes Filslade took back the Gibbs #9 for the ATG pass and you can hear him saying :
"wow, it is very efficient indeed !" & several seconds after "damn, oh yeah, it is really impressive"
He said to Cha-wing!! that he is planning to steal it from him before leaving...
Correct (YMMV etc etc)The #9 doesn't show very often, but I've heard that the Gibbs 15/17 adjustable performs better.
The #9 doesn't show very often, but I've heard that the Gibbs 15/17 adjustable performs better. Not sure how true is that,
@Cha-wing!! has tried them both and his verdict is clear and accurate : to him, the #9 is far superior to the #15/17 in terms of shaving results, quality built, etc...
But of course, opinions are subjective and can vary easily from individual to another.
And i agree with you for the price, all that speculation on vintage razors is really annoying.
Yes, 100% trueThose who started collecting them 10-15 + years ago had it much easy
but now the problem is that too many flippers have joined this hobby and what they do is buying those razors cheap from antique shops, flea markets, garage sales, estate sales etc. and then artificially increase the prices to the roof to make a nice profit and sadly, those people are becoming more and more each day.
I have nothing against the flippers, because some of my friends are doing the same thing as well, but that doesn't mean that I like how things are and finding what I need without 10-20 or more people to bid on it isn't fun at all.
Again, not just flipper, but collectors too. And I blame the collectors more in this case for taking advantage of the situation.Flippers are like leeches and they eventually find their way in every hobby.
Yes, 100% true
Some of those flippers are actually the new version of antique shops. You see, Antique shops have limited clientele due to physical location maybe 50k-100k. Online antique shops have access to 8 billion people. By increasing the price they just play the game of probability. One will bite and get it at that price. In 8 billions the probability gets higher. Evidently there are not billion razor collectors. But you get the point.
On the flip side (pun intended), those flippers are digging up stuff that we've never seen or seen often. So, some stuff all of a sudden is less rare than we thought it was. Think of the Toggle or the double ring, there is almost not a single day that passes where you can't see one selling. Sometime there are 10 Toggles selling at the same time and 3-4 Double rings.
Same here, but some collectors are jumping on the bandwagon as well to lower the cost of their future or past acquisitions. I know one who bought a NOS razor for 120$ and is selling his with no box and not in a good shape, for much hgher than the NOS he bought a month ago.
Again, not just flipper, but collectors too. And I blame the collectors more in this case for taking advantage of the situation.
Flippers at the end, and I know some of them, are living off this hobby and dedicating the time to do it, Find the razor (they travel between cities and countries, at least in Europe), repair it and clean it. They have a real cost built into the razor. Collectors on the other hand, are just asking outrageous prices are adding no value. And believe me, I know a lot of them (like you have no idea).
To be fair, not all collectors are bad and not all flippers are good. I know of both. And I consider several of them as friends.
I absolutely agree, things are not only black and white and even though my comment might sound hateful and bitter towards those folks, I don't think anyone cares about my opinion on this subject. The rule have always been - you either buy something or you don't and that's the way it is.
I just wish I've started much earlier, because I know a lot of people with huge collections of very uncommon and rare vintage razors ranging from great to mint or NOS condition with their boxes, instructions, original blades etc. and I'm not sure whatever that's true or not, but according to them, they have rarely spend more than $100 for anything they own and they own tons of stuff. And even they agree that it would be nearly impossible to start collecting vintage razors these days and find such great razors for next to nothing.
I think this is true. Wilkinson Sticky was thought to be rare 10 years ago and sold more than $150 but it is quite common. and the same goes for Barbasol Floating head, Eclipse Red Ring, Leresche 77 and Kirby Beard,etc.One big collector in France told me he had a friend that at the time had 80 insanely rare razors and now he has only 10 rare. People unearthed more razors and those he though were rare became much more common.