Dutch to the left.
Vintage non Gillette razors
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. Didn’t know that. Thanks!That thinner than usual comb and or whole razor only pops up with Dutch markings. Usually a ball end brass handle, but I can not exclude the bakelite/aluminium version.
Here’s most of the few non-Gillettes that I have kept - all nice shavers too 
On top I have a Red Ring, a Shavex and a couple of Rotbarts.
On top I have a Red Ring, a Shavex and a couple of Rotbarts.The one in the third picture is gorgeous!! Wow!Here’s most of the few non-Gillettes that I have kept - all nice shavers too
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Thanks. That’s the dual comb EMIR, 1930s art deco beauty from Germany.
Vibro-Shave Electric Razor on the Bay right now in your price range. Doesn't look scary at all...
Berkeley adjustable is another I'd like to have too.
Berkeley adjustable is another I'd like to have too.
Schick Krona, obviously. I think it shaves better than any vintage Gillette.
I had already suggested that to you several months ago but i take the risk to do it again
--> the Gibbs #9
But i understand quite well that its price, due to its high rarety, can be dissuasive...
The Star DE razor. Delightful.
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Star Double Edge Razor
Some months ago I acquired a 1960s Star D/E razor online. For those of you with a knowledge of USA razor history, you will know GEM, Eveready and Star ultimately combined, about 1919, to form the American Safety Razor Corporation. However that company manufactured razors under those brands...
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I had already suggested that to you several months ago but i take the risk to do it again
--> the Gibbs #9
But i understand quite well that its price, due to its high rarety, can be dissuasive...
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You own that Gibbs? Damn, those are quite rare and I saw one a few months ago on Ebay and it was sold for over $500.
Unfortunately, i don't.
I took this photo on the web, i shoud've specified it in my previous message... If i had had one, i would have sent it to you to allow you to test it...
Several months ago, i saw one as well in NOS condition with its original case for "only" 350 €... And an other one in excellent condition with its original case for 250 €.
But i do know that @Cha-wing!! is an absolute lover of this Gibbs #9 and he owns 2 copies of it, if i'm not mistaken.
A french dude named Filslade dropped by to his house and he tested it. They made a video. You can see it at 10:15 minutes & at 22:17 minutes Filslade took back the Gibbs #9 for the ATG pass and you can hear him saying :
"wow, it is very efficient indeed !" & several seconds after "damn, oh yeah, it is really impressive"
He said to Cha-wing!! that he is planning to steal it from him before leaving...
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Unfortunately, i don't.
If i had had one, i would have sent it to you to allow you to test it...
Several months ago, i saw one as well in NOS condition with its original case for "only" 350 €... And an other one in excellent condition with its original case for 250 €.
But i do know that @Cha-wing!! is an absolute lover of this Gibbs #9 and he owns 2 copies of it, if i'm not mistaken.
A french dude named Filslade dropped by to his house and he tested it. They made a video. You can see it at 10:15 minutes & at 22:17 minutes Filslade took back the Gibbs #9 for the ATG pass and you can hear him saying :
"wow, it is very efficient indeed !" & several seconds after "damn, oh yeah, it is really impressive"
He said to Cha-wing!! that he is planning to steal it from him before leaving...
The #9 doesn't show very often, but I've heard that the Gibbs 15/17 adjustable performs better. Not sure how true is that, but I no longer feel like I would pay more than $150 for a vintage razor. I still like them and I would grab something interesting on the spot, but my attention is not primarily on modern high end razors.
Correct (YMMV etc etc)
@Cha-wing!! has tried them both and his verdict is clear and accurate : to him, the #9 is far superior to the #15/17 in terms of shaving results, quality built, etc...
But of course, opinions are subjective and can vary easily from individual to another.
And i agree with you for the price, all that speculation on vintage razors is really annoying.
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Those who started collecting them 10-15 + years ago had it much easy, but now the problem is that too many flippers have joined this hobby and what they do is buying those razors cheap from antique shops, flea markets, garage sales, estate sales etc. and then artificially increase the prices to the roof to make a nice profit and sadly, those people are becoming more and more each day.
I'm glad that I was able to find some of my collection cheaper than usual and I own the vast majority of the vintage razors I always wanted, but if I was a new collector and I had to start from a scratch, I would just buy the best and cheapest vintage razors and skip the pricy ones.
I have nothing against the flippers, because some of my friends are doing the same thing as well, but that doesn't mean that I like how things are and finding what I need without 10-20 or more people to bid on it isn't fun at all.
My advice is to focus on the specific vintage razors that you want and once you find them to spend your extra money on modern high end razors. That way your money are at least going to a person who has spend some time creating something new instead if basically do nothing and pump the price of something uncommon in order to twist your hands to buy it for what he thinks is fair. Flippers are like leeches and they eventually find their way in every hobby.
Yes, 100% true
Some of those flippers are actually the new version of antique shops. You see, Antique shops have limited clientele due to physical location maybe 50k-100k. Online antique shops have access to 8 billion people. By increasing the price they just play the game of probability. One will bite and get it at that price. In 8 billions the probability gets higher. Evidently there are not billion razor collectors. But you get the point.
On the flip side (pun intended), those flippers are digging up stuff that we've never seen or seen often. So, some stuff all of a sudden is less rare than we thought it was. Think of the Toggle or the double ring, there is almost not a single day that passes where you can't see one selling. Sometime there are 10 Toggles selling at the same time and 3-4 Double rings.
Same here, but some collectors are jumping on the bandwagon as well to lower the cost of their future or past acquisitions. I know one who bought a NOS razor for 120$ and is selling his with no box and not in a good shape, for much hgher than the NOS he bought a month ago.
Again, not just flipper, but collectors too. And I blame the collectors more in this case for taking advantage of the situation.
Flippers at the end, and I know some of them, are living off this hobby and dedicating the time to do it, Find the razor (they travel between cities and countries, at least in Europe), repair it and clean it. They have a real cost built into the razor. Collectors on the other hand, are just asking outrageous prices are adding no value. And believe me, I know a lot of them (like you have no idea).
To be fair, not all collectors are bad and not all flippers are good. I know of both. And I consider several of them as friends.
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I absolutely agree, things are not only black and white and even though my comment might sound hateful and bitter towards those folks, I don't think anyone cares about my opinion on this subject. The rule have always been - you either buy something or you don't and that's the way it is.
I just wish I've started much earlier, because I know a lot of people with huge collections of very uncommon and rare vintage razors ranging from great to mint or NOS condition with their boxes, instructions, original blades etc. and I'm not sure whatever that's true or not, but according to them, they have rarely spend more than $100 for anything they own and they own tons of stuff. And even they agree that it would be nearly impossible to start collecting vintage razors these days and find such great razors for next to nothing.
I am going to tell you something about razor collecting. There are still deals to be made. I too wish I have started earlier. But not because razors were cheaper. But because I would have a bigger collection.
My average (Yes, my purchases are in an excel sheet) is 55$. Only 31 are over a 100$. Some rare razors in early 2000 were more expensive than razors now. It is due partly to these flippers, they unearthed so many of them that the price dropped.
I would give you the names of these razor, but it would probably mean nothing to people here in the forum, since they're heavily DE oriented.
One big collector in France told me he had a friend that at the time had 80 insanely rare razors and now he has only 10 rare. People unearthed more razors and those he though were rare became much more common.
If you're collecting, then you're collecting for the long term, you will come across score you won't believe you can come across.
Stay sharp and don't obsess over things, you'll end up paying much more because you're impatient (I should give that advice to myself too).
PS: Do as I say but don't do as I do.
I think this is true. Wilkinson Sticky was thought to be rare 10 years ago and sold more than $150 but it is quite common. and the same goes for Barbasol Floating head, Eclipse Red Ring, Leresche 77 and Kirby Beard,etc.
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