Valueing Gillette Single rings

[shavefreak]

Just wondering what you Gillette aficionados think about single rings and how you subjectively and monetarily value them. Early vs. late etc. Listings have been interesting lately from singles, sets, and even some traveler sets but prices are just everywhere and I wonder what you guys think if you pay any attention. Some recent completed listings:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/antique-191...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cd1b93416#ht_2302wt_1159
Late model but nice and complete aside from the shipper and still at the 100 year mark. Seems like a decent grab for a mid year single, love the little price tag.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1905-Gillet...halt_Küche&hash=item53f866eb76#ht_1932wt_1426
This one is not a 1905, another in a string of false information lately and I think the higher price reflects the error. Red felt is always eye catching

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-190...ultDomain_0&hash=item27d2548c7b#ht_317wt_1426
high for an uncased single

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Vtg-Silve...ue&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_352wt_1397
Authentic early single plus a bonus razor.

 

[ironfist]

Their nice shaver.

Plus they all look decent, with cases etc

I have 3 Canadian Single Rings, love the shaves.

 

[CGW409]

I can personally vouch for #4 as I'm the proud most recent owner.
1905 and cleaned up very nice with only some minor brassing on the cap and the bonus Old Type needed only a good cleaning and a bit of marine epoxy to set to rights a loose handle top.
I figure the OT is worth an easy 10 so the SR only set me back 65.

What they look like now.

 

[shavefreak]

I thought that was a respectable buy, what is the serial number?, .

I can personally vouch for #4 as I'm the proud most recent owner.
1905 and cleaned up very nice with only some minor brassing on the cap and the bonus Old Type needed only a good cleaning and a bit of marine epoxy to set to rights a loose handle top.
I figure the OT is worth an easy 10 so the SR only set me back 65.

What they look like now.
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[CGW409]

491501

 

[MacDaddy]

Prices in general do seem to have taken a bit of a leap lately, particularly for the older models. There's usually a bit of a bump around now between income tax refunds and Father's Day, though, so maybe things will calm down again soon. I sure hope it's not a new "normal."

That first set looks suspicious to me. 1911 seems way too early for the "Made in U.S.A." above the logo, and I don't think the cardboard blade cases showed up either until more like 1914 when the new models came out. I've seen other "mix-and-match" stuff from that particular seller, so I wouldn't be that surprised to find the razor had been swapped into a later set's case. I probably still wouldn't have gone that high even if everything did look proper, though.

 

[shavefreak]

Interesting, Any idea when they stopped putting the instruction books in?

Prices in general do seem to have taken a bit of a leap lately, particularly for the older models. There's usually a bit of a bump around now between income tax refunds and Father's Day, though, so maybe things will calm down again soon. I sure hope it's not a new "normal."

That first set looks suspicious to me. 1911 seems way too early for the "Made in U.S.A." above the logo, and I don't think the cardboard blade cases showed up either until more like 1914 when the new models came out. I've seen other "mix-and-match" stuf

f from that particular seller, so I wouldn't be that surprised to find the razor had been swapped into a later set's case. I probably still wouldn't have gone that high even if everything did look proper, though.

 

[almaga]

Im confused on these as well on the second set it stamped pat pending 04 so what exactly makes this one the wrong year? As farms the others go very nice.

Interesting, Any idea when they stopped putting the instruction books in?

 

[MacDaddy]

Interesting, Any idea when they stopped putting the instruction books in?

The instructions changed over the years, but as far as I know they never stopped including them.

Im confused on these as well on the second set it stamped pat pending 04 so what exactly makes this one the wrong year? As farms the others go very nice.

It's not "pat pending 04"; it's "PAT. NOV. 15, 04" which is the date of the patent, not when the razor was made. The 1905 date that the seller mentioned seems to have come from the patent date on the one blade that was with the set, also not the date the razor (or blade) was made.

 

[almaga]

You always have the right answers so how do you determine the date on this razor by the? So what year is it? Your knowledge is amazing thanks sorry just took another look at the listing what is the date on the box? Sorry using ipad here your saying correct set but seller put wrong year right?

The instructions changed over the years, but as far as I know they never stopped including them.



It's not "pat pending 04"; it's "PAT. NOV. 15, 04" which is the date of the patent, not when the razor was made. The 1905 date that the seller mentioned seems to have come from the patent date on the one blade that was with the set, also not the date the razor (or blade) was made.

 

[shavefreak]

Porter is the Man for sure

The diamond arrow was not created until 1908 so that immedately dis-credits any 1905 claims. The serial number brings it to 1916

http://gillettedatecodes.com/

You always have the right answers so how do you determine the date on this razor by the? So what year is it? Your knowledge is amazing thanks sorry just took another look at the listing what is the date on the box? Sorry using ipad here your saying correct set but seller put wrong year right?

 

[almaga]

What about box? Yep forgot to look up the darn date code just started using this thing going back to my laptop

QUOTE=shavefreak;5129948]Porter is the Man for sure

The diamond arrow was not created until 1908 so that immedate dis-credits any 1905 claims. The serial number brings it to 1916

http://gillettedatecodes.com/[/QUOTE]

 

[almaga]

Very nice congrats

I can personally vouch for #4 as I'm the proud most recent owner.
1905 and cleaned up very nice with only some minor brassing on the cap and the bonus Old Type needed only a good cleaning and a bit of marine epoxy to set to rights a loose handle top.
I figure the OT is worth an easy 10 so the SR only set me back 65.

What they look like now.
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[elmerwood]

I'm trying to pick up most of the early razors like single rings before I start going after flair tips, techs etc. I also try to find the ones in different cases before I get the more standard ones as well. I really like my Pioneer Olympic set I just picked up, and the red colored single ring set towards the back as well. Probably my best single ring at this moment is the cased combination set complete with shipper, price, instructions and matching serial number.

 

[elmerwood]

Since we're on the topic a bit. What set would these blade boxes would have come from?

 

[TheEye]

 

[elmerwood]

Thanks! Now I just need to find the rest of the set

 

[mr-razor]

The instructions changed over the years, but as far as I know they never stopped including them.



It's not "pat pending 04"; it's "PAT. NOV. 15, 04" which is the date of the patent, not when the razor was made. The 1905 date that the seller mentioned seems to have come from the patent date on the one blade that was with the set, also not the date the razor (or blade) was made.

+1

the Canadian blades shows the patent date of 1905