Stauff said:
I know the French actually lost, but I was talking the way just about every historian describes it in history textbooks (at least US history textbooks, I've never had the opportunity to read a European version of the events leading up to the formation of the UN). Most of the US textbooks include France as a victor primarily because it was an "Allied" victory and thus, even though France was technically no longer a nation, at the time, as a result of their surrender to Germany they are included regardless.
Anyway I was thinking about this after I posted yesterday and what is so special about the 5 that have veto power? If it was a factor of their being the supposed victor in WWII (which is what every text I have read says) then I say we give veto power to every nation that was eventially victorious over the Germans and Japanese, even if they surrendered as the French did. Thus nearly every European nation; minus maybe Austria, Switzerland, and Italy since they never truly fought German rule (at least that is my understanding); most of the Northern Africa nations, most of the Middle East, and much of the Asia Pacific region. Hmmm, with that many differing nations having veto I'm pretty sure the UN would become completely useless and nothing would EVER get done.
