TSA security regulations

[BigFoot]

Hey everyone,

For those of you that travel a lot like I do. What do you think of the full body scanners and the extensive pat downs? I really don't object to the scanners but the pat downs are a bit to invasive. I was selected as a random by the metal detector. I was not a real happy camper when they were done patting me down. Wondering what all of you thought.

Scott

 

[Go West Young Man]

Such an annoying non-controversy. No-one is looking at your private parts on the video monitor upstairs.

 

[RichGem]

Hey everyone,

For those of you that travel a lot like I do. What do you think of the full body scanners and the extensive pat downs? I really don't object to the scanners but the pat downs are a bit to invasive. I was selected as a random by the metal detector. I was not a real happy camper when they were done patting me down. Wondering what all of you thought.

Scott

Did they at least buy you a nice dinner first?

Such an annoying non-controversy. No-one is looking at your private parts on the video monitor upstairs.

I guess not.

 

[ouch]

Phil has no problem with them.

 

[BigFoot]

Phil has no problem with them.

Man your comments can't be trusted. You have been assimilated by Gruder and his implant. And here weee gooo again.

Scott

 

[ouch]

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[luvmysuper]

Phil has no problem with them.

 

[RichGem]

..

WWPD?

(what would a pleidean do?)

 

[DolimiteB]

It's kind of a touchy issue for a lot of people...pun intended. At the end of the day, you have a right not to fly. In electing to fly you consent to certain restrictions...at least that's how I look at it.

 

[BigFoot]

WWPD?

(what would a pleidean do?)

Guys I hope you know how bad you have hurt my feelings. I was trying to have a nice gentlemanly conversation. Now this will probably become my 1st post to end up in the clownhouse.

Scott

 

[RichGem]

Guys I hope you know how bad you have hurt my feelings. I was trying to have a nice gentlemanly conversation. Now this will probably become my 1st post to end up in the clownhouse.

Scott

Well, soon you'll be joining the cool kids.

 

[luvmysuper]

In all seriousness - I travel a LOT.
It's to the point now that I don't even think about it. My routine is so down pat that I breeze through the security line like grease through a goose.
I don't think those TSA folks get any more pleasure out of having to pat down people than people get a thrill out of being patted down.
The scanner is just another machine, like metal detectors and explosives detectors.
One could make an argument about the effectiveness to cost ratio of these precautions, but you'd be making an argument for argument sake.
They are here to stay and if you want to fly you'll get in line like the rest of the cattle.
I can tell you my best friend in getting through the airport is checking a bag.
Folks that try to jam a weeks worth of crap into a huge carryon and spend 20 minutes unpacking and repacking the thing at security, and who don't take off their shoes or watches or belts till they are told to do so are more of an inconvenience than TSA security itself.

 

[BigFoot]

Well said Phil, maybe I am overeacting a bit. I have been on well over 50 flights this year. As I stated I don't mind the scanners other than they slow the lines down. I just think the new pat downs are a bit extreme. Especially when you do everything right and get hit with a random.

Scott

 

[BladeDE40]

Interesting topic...I personally don't have much of a problem with it, if it means I fly safely. I actually just heard on the news that some cities/ counties are opting out of using the TSA at their airports and hiring private security in an effort to be more sensitive to passengers in light of the recent TSA security measures.

 

[luvmysuper]

Well said Phil, maybe I am overeacting a bit. I have been on well over 50 flights this year. As I stated I don't mind the scanners other than they slow the lines down. I just think the new pat downs are a bit extreme. Especially when you do everything right and get hit with a random.

Scott

Yes, it is a hassle. I always plan to be at the airport 3 hours before International and 2 hours before Domestic. Sitting at the gate with a cup of coffee and browsing B&B on my phone helps to pass the time.

Interesting topic...I personally don't have much of a problem with it, if it means I fly safely. I actually just heard on the news that some cities/ counties are opting out of using the TSA at their airports and hiring private security in an effort to be more sensitive to passengers in light of the recent TSA security measures.

I am in favor of private security rather than the TSA.
With the exception of the Armed Forces, the Government does nothing to the highest level of quality and cost effectiveness. It's more of a generic "one size fits all" mentality.

 

[instpasr]

I know I'll take it in the shorts with this one but here it goes. Those scanners put out to much radiation. Maybe not for the casual flyer but to someone who has a radiation based occupation any extra amount is to much. When I was still working in the OR I got a nasty gram from the radiation safety officer wanting to know what the heck I was doing because my badge was to high. I know the propaganda office has said it's all good but we don't see anyone from GOV central going through these things. Now with that said our friends in Israel have it right in my opinion, profile everyone.

 

[Mark1966]

In all seriousness - I travel a LOT.
It's to the point now that I don't even think about it. My routine is so down pat that I breeze through the security line like grease through a goose.
I don't think those TSA folks get any more pleasure out of having to pat down people than people get a thrill out of being patted down.
The scanner is just another machine, like metal detectors and explosives detectors.
One could make an argument about the effectiveness to cost ratio of these precautions, but you'd be making an argument for argument sake.
They are here to stay and if you want to fly you'll get in line like the rest of the cattle.
I can tell you my best friend in getting through the airport is checking a bag.
Folks that try to jam a weeks worth of crap into a huge carryon and spend 20 minutes unpacking and repacking the thing at security, and who don't take off their shoes or watches or belts till they are told to do so are more of an inconvenience than TSA security itself.

Yes, yes and yes!

I have my flying clothes all sorted. Shoes that don't go off because of metal inserts (Aussue domestic travel you don't have to take off your shoes automatically) and belts that don't go off either. I can slip my notebook out of my backpack and in a tray with my mobile and keys quicker than you can say full-cavity search BUT...

... sometimes you get stuck behind the guy with a HUGE carry on bag that he firstly struggles to get his notebook out of then as he places it on the machine and is asked about aerosols or umbrellas thinkgs he MAY have both so has to ferret though said bag while we all wait.

He then sets off the metal detector, turns around and comes back through nearly knocking over the person behind pushes into the convenyor line and places his shoes on a new tray, goes through metal detector again, same procedures with belt, thrird time is is the watch with the chunky band, fourth time something in his pocket he forgot. Finally on the fifth attempt he makes it through and the rest of the line can start moving.

I must confess feeling some sympathy for some of the well attired business women who almost do a strip tease as the high heeled boots, belts, jewellery, jackets etc come off. They look so vulnerable skulking through holding up a skirt in their stockinged feet!

It is scary though when you can relate oh so well to 'Up in the Air'......

 

[Walker]

I fly twice a month and it's all just routine now. I just hate long backed up lines but it's all part of the process. Yesterday I saw an older gentleman with a VFW hat on being held up by the TSA guy so they could scan him. I thought that was a bit extreme but he took it in stride.

 

[Mike in Cincy]

I will opt out everytime and take the full pat-down. I don't need the radiation. The Mayo Clinic has already spoken out against this thing and now the pilot's union is asking for it's removal.

 

[RF1963]

The constant security, the intrusive searches, the long queues, scanners, pat downs, a 3 year old child crying in distress, the paranoia over the contents of our carry on bag are all signs that the terrorists have won. The fact that we now accept these things as routine underlines the extent of their victory. That we are now routinely suspected of carrying weapons/bombs etc and are subject to searches to prove our innocence is a complete reversal of the burden of proof; no law enforcement officer on the street would be permitted to go through our possessions and our person without some degree of specific suspicion or proof. Move across the street and go through the airport doors and the restriction on the State's intrusion into our private lives is removed. The greatest victory against terrorism is to conduct our lives as normal.

I do not live in America but I will neither travel to the States or through your country as long as these draconian searches continue.