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I do agree with you but I think that the 3.25” width is a more classic cut than the width that they are now and would timeless regardless of current trends.
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I do agree with you but I think that the 3.25” width is a more classic cut than the width that they are now and would timeless regardless of current trends.
Back when I wore long ties rather than bow ties, I found 3"/7cm to be the perfect range of width for me. "Timeless slim", I guess one could call it. Someone not wanting to be "slightly on the slim side" would do well at 3.25", though.
This should work well.
Sounds correct, Doc.
On a side note, some years ago here in Rome I met an important producer of Italian ties and he told me that the USA was the most important market for his export. I was a bit surprised to hear this, since Germany and France (and the EU in general) are our main commercial partners.
Do Americans really like the "Made In Italy" that much? Some brands of clothing in particular to mention, please?
Italian shoes are hard to beat....
Always being too thin (until very recently) I only bought thin ties, fashion be damned. Now my son steals my ties. And I agree, they are not as well crafted today as they were. And the choice in materials are more limited. Yes, you heard me right: get off my lawn youse kids!
Always being too thin (until very recently) I only bought thin ties, fashion be damned. Now my son steals my ties. And I agree, they are not as well crafted today as they were. And the choice in materials are more limited. Yes, you heard me right: get off my lawn youse kids!
Generally, my impression of the North American market is that the "made in Italy" tag has a definite cachet to it. This is seen especially in "dress" clothes (suits, shirts & ties, leather shoes) and "fancy" leather items. There is also an awareness that the phrase can also be subject to abuse by lesser brands which "game the system" by having a lot of work done elsewhere (eg China) and then juuuuust enough work done in Italy to be entitled to "made in Italy".
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A little poofier than I prefer
Absolutely! Especially for men’s wear. For brands, you could start with Jos. A Bank and Men’s Wearhouse, which both advertise Italian fabrics in their high end suits and other garments. But really, I think it’s pretty universal. With the exception of tweeds, where the UK and Irish mills seem dominant, I’d reckon most of the wools and silks in mid-to-high end men’s wear in the US comes from Italy.
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A little poofier than I prefer
Well said. I find the best retailers are honest about differentiating between where the fabric comes from and where the garment was tailored. Global supply chains enable us to have Italian wool fabric sewn in China. Honestly, though, I’m less down on “Made in China” when it comes to menswear. Unlike, say, electronics or watchmaking, China does have a fairly long and respectable sartorial history, certainly in the coastal cities and especially in Hong Kong. The best tailors in my local area are Chinese immigrants.
Italian shoes are sure beautiful. Expensive, but a lot flashier than the Allen Edmonds I buy! Those ties are nice. Mine are all cheap save a couple. I like the new width you are getting.
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(Casual) Friday on my mind.
One concern I have regarding the “cleaning” portion of the work being done is that I’ve read that the cleaning takes some of the vibrancy out of the color. A lot of these ties have gotten plenty of wear over the years but the part of the tie that forms the knot have slightly darkened over the years just from the natural oils from skin which the reason for the cleaning.
So I guess we shall see.
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Yes, we shall see. Thanks for starting this thread. Now that I'm no longer required to wear neckties I find that I don't as often. I thank you for enlightening me that there is such a service as this.(Casual) Friday on my mind.
One concern I have regarding the “cleaning” portion of the work being done is that I’ve read that the cleaning takes some of the vibrancy out of the color. A lot of these ties have gotten plenty of wear over the years but the part of the tie that forms the knot have slightly darkened over the years just from the natural oils from skin which the reason for the cleaning.
So I guess we shall see.
The only thing worse for them than cleaning them is ... not cleaning them.
Well, okay, second-worst.
Kudos on the above!
I've only done this on one clothing item, a set of boots. Got them in 1977 & made by the Lehigh Shoe Co. Forgot them at a friends house in the early 80's, reclaimed them several years later. Resoled them late 80's, dyed them black mid 90s. I still wear them, they fit great, and remind they me why something of good quality should be kept & used.
Re: Obsolescence. I worked in the consumer electronics industry for 20 years. Everything is about the cycle an introducing something new you can't live without. I've been out a decade and not looked back, it is a very destructive cycle. Phones are the worst. I do have a smartphone but will only replace it when it no longer operates. And then with one bought used.
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How do you text with that thing?!?
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Excellent.
#CusterSucks
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The ties are back from Tiecrafters. I received an email 2 days ago advising that they were shipped and received them yesterday.
THE PACKAGING:
Delivered via UPS and packaged neatly in a tie box with tissue paper. It also included some advertisement cards not seen in the pic.
THE CLEANING:
The cleaning job was excellent. The darkened area where the knot usually sits, is gone, the color is not faded at all and the hand of the tie is still silky smooth (sometimes a cleaned tie from the dry cleaner can come back feeling somewhat rough.)
THE TAILORING:
The workmanship is fine. No loose threads. The keeper loop and the label are intact. The tipping and the margin/hem are neatly sewn. The Care and Origin label are intact and the slip stitch stitching is neat and invisible as it should be.
MY ISSUE: (Hey, I’m a guy who sends his ties out to be narrowed so I’m gonna have issues.).
My issue deals with the taper of the tie from its widest part as it starts to get narrower as you go higher up on the tie. (See next post #40 for pics with measurements).
To my eye, it ever-so-slightly changes the silhouette of the tie to a more “boxy” look instead of a “softer” tapered look.
I have to see how it looks when worn to see if it’s noticeable or negligible.
Nevertheless, I am pleased with the work that was done and I’m quite certain that I will be sending additional ties to Tiecrafters. I have confidence in their work.
Enjoy.
THE PACKAGING:
Delivered via UPS and packaged neatly in a tie box with tissue paper. It also included some advertisement cards not seen in the pic.
THE CLEANING:
The cleaning job was excellent. The darkened area where the knot usually sits, is gone, the color is not faded at all and the hand of the tie is still silky smooth (sometimes a cleaned tie from the dry cleaner can come back feeling somewhat rough.)
THE TAILORING:
The workmanship is fine. No loose threads. The keeper loop and the label are intact. The tipping and the margin/hem are neatly sewn. The Care and Origin label are intact and the slip stitch stitching is neat and invisible as it should be.
MY ISSUE: (Hey, I’m a guy who sends his ties out to be narrowed so I’m gonna have issues.).
My issue deals with the taper of the tie from its widest part as it starts to get narrower as you go higher up on the tie. (See next post #40 for pics with measurements).
To my eye, it ever-so-slightly changes the silhouette of the tie to a more “boxy” look instead of a “softer” tapered look.
I have to see how it looks when worn to see if it’s noticeable or negligible.
Nevertheless, I am pleased with the work that was done and I’m quite certain that I will be sending additional ties to Tiecrafters. I have confidence in their work.
Enjoy.
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