Thuringian / Escher finishing

[jkh]

Alright folks, too lazy to search and I want to hear some "new" discussion ...

What are you finishing tips/tricks for Thuringians and/or Eschers? Slurry? Dilutions? Water? Oil (gasp)? Also, what do you do to get the edge ready to finish on these stones?

 

[paco664]

i just smear a bit of oil on it and go from there.... take your time... no need to hurry...


i also will use diamond spray on occasion....

 

[jkh]

Take your time? Do you mean lots of laps?

 

[life2short1971]

No you can not use oil on Thuringians it mucks them up. Try using a light slurry for 20-30 laps if you don't like that try no slurry for 20-30 laps if you don't like that try 5-10 laps next time as a total. If still not happy try more laps.

 

[MileMarker60]

thuri tend to be quick cutters
If your using it purely as a finisher.
A method that has worked good for me is this.
Work up a slurry and do 10-12 laps, then cut the slurry in half.
10-12 laps, cuting in half again, 10-12 laps. You can stop and check there if you want.
At that point you can stop there on the slurry or rinse the stone off and finish with 10-12 laps on just water.

 

[Gamma]

Light water-based slurry is all I every use.

Most of the time - just water though.

 

[paco664]

Take your time? Do you mean lots of laps?

i mean not being in a hurry and messing up what progress you have made....


and i have not had any issues with oil mucking up my thuri..... i just clean it when i am done...

 

[jkh]

thuri tend to be quick cutters
If your using it purely as a finisher.

Interesting, have you ever used one for something other than finishing? If so, indulge me. I was under the assumption these stones are just for finishing.

A method that has worked good for me is this.
Work up a slurry and do 10-12 laps, then cut the slurry in half.
10-12 laps, cuting in half again, 10-12 laps. You can stop and check there if you want.
At that point you can stop there on the slurry or rinse the stone off and finish with 10-12 laps on just water.

What kind of slurry densities are we talking here? Cream, milk, skim milk, organic non-fat soy milk?

What are we talking for strokes? Some pressure, no pressure, lighter than a feather?

Again, what are you guys doing prior to finishing? Coticules? Synthetic progression? Lapping film?

 

[jkh]

i mean not being in a hurry and messing up what progress you have made....

Got it. What fun is that?

 

[SliceOfLife]

Thuri's are historically heavily warned against use with oil. Almost every labeled thuri has bold print warning "USE NO OIL OR GREASE". I recall one barbers guide saying it can harden the stone or something.

99.9% of thuri's say one of two things. If sold with a rubber, they say use it with slurry. If sold without they say use it with water (some say a slurry will naturally be produced by the razor).

Thuris are thoughtless. Use as much slurry as feels right. If the razor drags cause the stones too dry, it's too thick. If you can't see it, it's too thin. Don't use pressure. Just hone. There's a reason they were one of the most marketed Barber/razor hones ever. They are laughably easy to use, incredibly effective, and give a superb edge.

 

[MileMarker60]

Interesting, have you ever used one for something other than finishing? If so, indulge me. I was under the assumption these stones are just for finishing.



What kind of slurry densities are we talking here? Cream, milk, skim milk, organic non-fat soy milk?

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What are we talking for strokes? Some pressure, no pressure, lighter than a feather?

Again, what are you guys doing prior to finishing? Coticules? Synthetic progression? Lapping film?

Coconut milk..lol
Lets call it 2% milk. You want to see it on the hone but not a thick slurry like a coti.
I've used it after syn. stone and coti.

And yes it can be used as a single stone hone, like a coti
Just use it the same as your coticule (except if your using a coti to set bevels, in that case set the bevel on the coti). slurry and dilute.

 

[jkh]

Oh cool. Now I gots some playin' around to do.

Does Thuringian slurry exhibit the same slurry dulling as Coticule slurry? I thought I remembered reading that it doesn't.

 

[life2short1971]

no it does not.

 

[jkh]

Any thoughts or experience on a Thuringian with slurry removing the scratches from a Chosera 1K or DMT 1.2K?

 

[gary haywood]

i have a 5x1 thury and i have used it with slurry and ater .. same as scot says it does not slurry dull like most cot coticules ... i used it directly after a coticule edge and i could'nt notice any improvemant over my coticule with use of slurry only or water only or both.. slightly differant feel on my skin but in terms of shave qukity very much the same .. i found the same thing with a full sized escher... Now using thury after a 8k norton i realy would'nt no...

 

[Obiwan]

I have found that my escher edges work best if I finish with it in my hand under lightly running water. No pressure on last 30 or so laps. A trick that saw (and use) is to balance the last half/third of the stone offf your hand to ensure there is no pressue (pressure = the stone falling off your hand).

 

[jkh]

(pressure = the stone falling off your hand).

And your $600 labeled Escher breaking into several pieces in the sink

 

[hig789]

I do 30 laps with a light slurry with very little pressure on my y/g and it is a very nice edge to me.

 

[Obiwan]

And your $600 labeled Escher breaking into several pieces in the sink

I should add that you should work up to this. Inch by inch. I use this on many of my hones to avoid pressure so it's second nature to me, but nobody wants to see a "$600 labeled slurry stone" sale on BST.

 

[raccoonandbrush]

How I use my Dark Blue Escher is 30 x-strokes on slurry, then 20 x-strokes on water.