The when is it a Schick Krona and when is it not DE timeline

[Chan Eil Whiskers]

Truly great stuff, sir.

Happy shaves,

Jim

 

[Whiterook]

@BBS-1 I am confused on the numbering for the L series razors. I have Waits Compendium and I believe they show the East Rider as L4 and the Championship as L6. Is there a definite source that all collectors reference?

 

[BBS-1]

@BBS-1 I am confused on the numbering for the L series razors. I have Waits Compendium and I believe they show the East Rider as L4 and the Championship as L6. Is there a definite source that all collectors reference?

If you follow the Appleby designations it should be an L7. That is typo on my part. If you go by the what it was actually called by Warner Lambert which was the Schick Championship Razor then there is no confusion here.

 

[Whiterook]

Thanks. Is there a website for the Appleby codes? Safetyrazors.net does not go to L7

 

[Spang]

Thanks so much to @BBS-1 for researching and posting all of this terrific information.
I have had several Schick DE razors and was not really aware of the differences. Early on in my DE shaving career I thought the Schick DEs too mild and didn't really give them much thought. A while back, I revisited one that I still have and found it to be a surprisingly good shaver. I chalked it up to improved technique, which might be partially true. But now I find that this particular razor is the pre-Krona shave variant No1:

Shave variant No 1 my guess is they only produced these in 1965
least mild

My experience now makes perfect sense. You can bet I'm hanging on to this one. Thanks again to @BBS-1 .

 

[Whiterook]

Thanks very much! I have those bookmarked and gave updated my inventory descriptions.

 

[BBS-1]

New modern Schick double edge razor to add to the timeline. I don't know when they first started producing these but apparently they are only sold in Japan right now. It is called a Schick classic double edge.

 

[Hedas]

Finally how to tell which razors are Schick Krona razors and which ones aren't well we can do that based upon a few manufacturing revisions.

Short answer is any razors produced prior to about Oct 1968 are not Krona razors and any razors produced Oct. 1968 or later are Krona razors. So how do we tell them apart visually you have to look at the lifter mechanisms and markings on the doors.

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The 3 on the left have the older lifter mechanism, the 3 on the right have the newer lifter mechanism.
The left 3 which are the 2 short metal knob Schick versions and the Eversharp Eagle. They are not Krona razors since they would predate 1968, they also have no markings on the doors on the heads.
The 3 on the right are Krona razors since they don't appear until the Krona brand name gets associated with these razors. Notice they have the newer lifter mechanism and notice how the doors are marked on them.

That leaves us with the long metal knob razors. They based on this will fall into Krona or not Krona.

First the not a Krona long metal knob razor. These most likely are 1967 or early 1968 before they are rebranded as Krona razors. See how the lifter and door heads are common to the 67 and earlier razors.
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This long metal knob razor should be called a Krona, notice the newer lifter mechanism and writing on the doors. This style should be a 68 - 74 possibly late as 77.
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So now you know when these were produced, which style coincides with approximately which years and which ones are Krona razors and which ones aren't.

Awesome post! I believe that my latest acquisition is a short metal knob Schick razor with no markings on the door, with the Schick in triangle logo at the end of the handle and thus pre-1968 and not a Krona. If I am not missing something - which is altogether possible of course.

 

[BBS-1]

Awesome post! I believe that my latest acquisition is a short metal knob Schick razor with no markings on the door, with the Schick in triangle logo at the end of the handle and thus pre-1968 and not a Krona. If I am not missing something - which is altogether possible of course.

Correct. If you happen to have the case you might be able to date it to the year and if you also have the instruction sheets or original packing then you can date those razors down to the year. Eversharp starting sometime in the 50s and right up until they sold the Schick brand to Warner Lambert in 1970 used to use a set of 2 numbers in the M-xx-xx format on all printed materials and sometimes cases. The middle one was the year it was produced so for example M-67-45 the year would be 1967. The M I am pretty sure stood for Milford, Conneticut where Eversharp was located.

 

[Hedas]

Correct. If you happen to have the case you might be able to date it to the year and if you also have the instruction sheets or original packing then you can date those razors down to the year. Eversharp starting sometime in the 50s and right up until they sold the Schick brand to Warner Lambert in 1970 used to use a set of 2 numbers in the M-xx-xx format on all printed materials and sometimes cases. The middle one was the year it was produced so for example M-67-45 the year would be 1967. The M I am pretty sure stood for Milford, Conneticut where Eversharp was located.

Unfortunately no box or instructions, just the razor. But it's my first Schick DE and I look forward to trying it out later this week. BBS-1, you have written awesome summaries of many types of Schick razors. My gratitude, man! This is one of the reasons I fell into this rabbit hole of a hobby and contracted RAD. It's so much fun and so much information out there. I love it!

 

[BBS-1]

Unfortunately no box or instructions, just the razor. But it's my first Schick DE and I look forward to trying it out later this week. BBS-1, you have written awesome summaries of many types of Schick razors. My gratitude, man! This is one of the reasons I fell into this rabbit hole of a hobby and contracted RAD. It's so much fun and so much information out there. I love it!

I should add that those markings might not apply to razors produced outside the US.

 

[xiletero]

I have an Eversharp, long metal twist, but the "stem/rod" is gray instead of black. Is there any information on these?

 

[BBS-1]

I have an Eversharp, long metal twist, but the "stem/rod" is gray instead of black. Is there any information on these?

Read the first post on the thread. Your answer is there.

 

[WetShaveVet]

Awesome stuff. I always thought I had a Krona. Still learning. Thank you for this.

 

[Juijitsu2010]

The Krona is kinda like a cheaper copy of a Gillette Flair Superspeed clone.I have one it shaves ok not real close but ok.Sharp blades work well in it.

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[South Dakota Guy]

Thanks for the interesting write up. I think the Krona might have been the safety razor I started using about 1977. The Navy took it and my safety razor blades from me when I entered boot camp in 1980. I never saw it again. The Navy had all of the recruits using Trac II’s back then.

 

[RAD patient]

New modern Schick double edge razor to add to the timeline. I don't know when they first started producing these but apparently they are only sold in Japan right now. It is called a Schick classic double edge.
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Looks like what they call a Wilkinson classic here in Europe.
Quite well made and heavy. Mine came in a box with extra blades, a brush and a spuck of soap fot only 22 euro's.

 

[MyOldKentuckyHome]

Based on what I've read in this thread I just received a mint, possibly NOS, pre-Krona Schick Double Edge Razor.

It would be what @BBS-1 above referred to as "Shave variant No 2 produced between 1965 - 1968. These had the short and long metal knobs with the Schick logo with the triangle and the older lifter designs."

It has the metal knob with black bottom containing SCHICK in triangle
Code = 1-2/M-5
Stamping s= SCHICK (in triangle) MADE IN U.S.A.
Doors = blank

It came in a gift set containing containing the Schick Hot Lather Shave Cream (found ads for this item in 1964/1965). The instructions have the M-64-132 code and the case has the Pat Pending 1965 date.

 

[rfm8os]

Based on what I've read in this thread I just received a mint, possibly NOS, pre-Krona Schick Double Edge Razor.

It would be what @BBS-1 above referred to as "Shave variant No 2 produced between 1965 - 1968. These had the short and long metal knobs with the Schick logo with the triangle and the older lifter designs."

It has the metal knob with black bottom containing SCHICK in triangle
Code = 1-2/M-5
Stamping s= SCHICK (in triangle) MADE IN U.S.A.
Doors = blank

It came in a gift set containing containing the Schick Hot Lather Shave Cream (found ads for this item in 1964/1965). The instructions have the M-64-132 code and the case has the Pat Pending 1965 date.

That is a very nice find!

This looks like the one I have. Mine was used, the case is in ok shape but has a broken hinge, one scratch on the side and a couple of wear spots that look like smudges in the clear plastic on the case cover. But not really bad for a used razor. It is also missing the instructions. It does have the blade dispenser with a couple of blades in it though the dispenser is a bit different than yours. It's a 5 blade dispenser and has different copy/layout. The Case has 1965 on the back just like yours and the razor has the same stampings you have.

 

[MyOldKentuckyHome]

That is a very nice find!

This looks like the one I have. Mine was used, the case is in ok shape but has a broken hinge, one scratch on the side and a couple of wear spots that look like smudges in the clear plastic on the case cover. But not really bad for a used razor. It is also missing the instructions. It does have the blade dispenser with a couple of blades in it though the dispenser is a bit different than yours. It's a 5 blade dispenser and has different copy/layout. The Case has 1965 on the back just like yours and the razor has the same stampings you have.

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Every shave with it so far has been GREAT!