I just ordered 4 different Geo F Trumper hard shaving soaps: Limes, Sandalwood, Eucris and Rose. And I am determined to (one way or another) prove that these SOB's can lather as well as any other soap despite their recent reputation as worthless-performing soaps. I'm going to first try loading a damp (post bloom) puck with an even dryer damp brush and load it even more then MWF till its a paste like consistency that will respond beautifully to tiny dips of water. I'm on a mission to prove these soaps can lather super well and that I didn't waste a lot of $$$. Wish me luck (or sobriety )!