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The "Reduced H.I.S.

The following is a continuation and performance review of a H.I.S. synthetic brush knot which was taken from its original handle as seen in the thread below.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showth...H-I-S-synthetic-brush-down-to-size?highlight=

As discussed earlier, the H.I.S. brush as originally equipped is a very large synthetic brush. The handle is large at a whopping 64 mm in length! It has a 28 mm knot size with a total loft of 60 mm! The maximum bloom is around 55 mm which is smaller than an equivalent sized badger knot. The overall length is 124 mm!

For this new prototype version I was looking for a handle that would be able to easily fit in the palm of my hand and be able to reduce the overall brush length well below 110 mm. For the prototype handle I again went to a larger MEM product bottle cap similar to the one shown in this thread.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/306533-Bottle-Cap-Brush-Project?highlight=

The overall length of this new handle was 46 mm and the final width of the bore was 32 mm. I chose these measurements so that the handle would be easy to hold while face lathering while the knot "bloom" configuration would be unaffected by the change of handle. This would allow all things to be equal with the original H.I.S. with the exception of handle height and loft. Given the parameters of the short wooden handle I was able to place a small amount of ballast inside for weight and made some adjustments in the knot plug to finally get the finished loft to 54 mm. That was as low as I could make the loft and have that short of a handle combination. With that I present the "Reduced H.I.S."

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Here are two side by side comparisons to the original brush configuration.

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As you can see the fan pattern remains the same just the height is far less. The overall brush height for the "Reduced H.I.S." is 100 mm. So now to the testing of the prototype.

The first day of testing was a face lathering test using Wilkinson Sword shave stick. My preparation was the usual warm shower and moistened face and head. I rubbed the wet shave stick over my moisten face (not on the head) and dunked the brush in warm water and shook it off twice and went to work lathering. Within a few seconds the brush was full of lather and so I shaved on my first face pass and then took the brush and lathered my head and made a head pass. There was more than enough lather left for a second face pass. Although I never had an issue face lathering with the H.I.S. brush in the original configuration, the short handle made it far easier to maneuver around the face and head. The fibers were still soft as before with a moderate increase in backbone due to the shortened effective loft. This brought the brush more in line with the Muhle 35 K 252 25 mm as far as maneuverability is concerned.

The second day of testing used the same method just substituting Palmolive shave stick and the third day using Erasmic shave stick. The Palmolive lathered at the same level as the Wilkinson Sword while the Erasmic had a little less lather but was able to perform two face passes and a head pass.

For the next trial, I decided that I would generate a bowl lather based on Williams soap as currently manufactured for the United States market. I whipped up some lather in the mug and it was easily able to create a large amount of lather. Here are pictures of the results.

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My conclusion was that the reduction of the handle brought the greatest level of results to the maneuverability while the loft reduction without crimping the fan brought a moderate increase in backbone of the knot. Overall I prefer this setup to the original handle and knot length. However, those individuals with repetitive motion injuries to the hands (i.e. carpal tunnel, etc.) may prefer the size of the original handle.

The results were that this setup allows for a brush that can both bowl lather and face lather with equal and strong capability. The tips are as soft as the original so if you are looking for exfoliation, seek something else because this is still the softest tips on any brush that I have ever used. The modifications improved this product to a level where more users would have an interest in obtaining a synthetic. Given the price structure of the current H.I.S. model this brush could be produced at a very attractive price as well. I see a great potential in synthetic brushes if they are developed on their own merits and strengths instead of trying to totally mimic natural brushes.

This prototype proves to me the merit of this knot in a shorter shaving specific style handle. The modification was my own work without any input from the manufacturer. If you would like make a suggestion to the manufacturer or the distributor about producing this 28 mm synthetic knot in a more traditional size and style handle, here are the email addresses for each.

Artist Brushstrokes: [email protected]
FM Brush: [email protected]

Again, to all, thank you taking time to review these matters.
 
Great write up! This kind of mod had to be done, thanks for stepping up and making it happen.

You used a 32mm knot bed, and the shape of the knot is nice and flat. After some testing, is this the proper width or do you think it might be better if the knot bed was slightly more narrow? 30mm possibly, to tighten it up?

I see a great potential in synthetic brushes if they are developed on their own merits and strengths instead of trying to totally mimic natural brushes.

This prototype proves to me the merit of this knot in a shorter shaving specific style handle.

Truer words have never been spoken. The H.I.S. fibers are overall the best synthetic fibers I have ever used. They just need to be tuned to take advantage of their strengths.
 
Great write up! This kind of mod had to be done, thanks for stepping up and making it happen.

You used a 32mm knot bed, and the shape of the knot is nice and flat. After some testing, is this the proper width or do you think it might be better if the knot bed was slightly more narrow? 30mm possibly, to tighten it up?

Truer words have never been spoken. The H.I.S. fibers are overall the best synthetic fibers I have ever used. They just need to be tuned to take advantage of their strengths.

Well, I think if you want to really turn it loose as a pure face latherer, tightening it back up to 28 mm / 50 mm loft would create an awesome one.

For the all around performer, perhaps tuning the knot bed back to 30 mm would have been better, however, since this was the first, someone had to start somewhere. I think 30 mm knot bed / 55 mm loft would probably be the best all around performance setting.
 
I'm jealous of your fan shaped knots. Mine is so round and bulby that any attempt to shorten the loft makes it feel pointy. I should have asked for a fan to start out with.

Can you get these any place other than Amazon yet? I dont think they would hand pick me a flat knot.

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In a bizarre flash of good karma, I just snagged a very flat H.I.S. on BST. It looks like I'm going to be doing some modding soon. *brush geek happy dance*
 
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I'm jealous of your fan shaped knots. Mine is so round and bulby that any attempt to shorten the loft makes it feel pointy. I should have asked for a fan to start out with.

Can you get these any place other than Amazon yet? I dont think they would hand pick me a flat knot.

I think they only do business through Amazon.
 
It was provided in the first post in this thread. Here is that reference.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showth...H-I-S-synthetic-brush-down-to-size?highlight=

You know, given the size of the original handle, I see some potential for reuse. If one were a bit more careful with the initial hacksaw cut, the remains of the handle flipped upside down would make quite a striking little brush handle, in my opinion. Round off cut end to gently curve into a flat bottom and then drill your hole down into the "original" bottom of the brush? You've got yourself kind of a "clay pot" looking handle there. What do you think Gary, having held it in hand? (I've not see one of these in person). It looks to me like there are some interesting lines on the bottom of that handle (the would-be top).

Anyhow, just a thought.
 
You know, given the size of the original handle, I see some potential for reuse. If one were a bit more careful with the initial hacksaw cut, the remains of the handle flipped upside down would make quite a striking little brush handle, in my opinion. Round off cut end to gently curve into a flat bottom and then drill your hole down into the "original" bottom of the brush? You've got yourself kind of a "clay pot" looking handle there. What do you think Gary, having held it in hand? (I've not see one of these in person). It looks to me like there are some interesting lines on the bottom of that handle (the would-be top).

Anyhow, just a thought.

You will be surprised at just how stout and resilient the handle is. After dealing with extracting the knot, I wanted nothing more to do with it.
If you are careful with the cut (time consuming) and willing to work a lot longer with it, you might be able to fashion a "new handle", but to me it just was not worth it.
 
You will be surprised at just how stout and resilient the handle is. After dealing with extracting the knot, I wanted nothing more to do with it.
If you are careful with the cut (time consuming) and willing to work a lot longer with it, you might be able to fashion a "new handle", but to me it just was not worth it.


Phaw! What if the first settlers to run into the Mississippi River said that? Don't you see? The resiliency of the handle is all the more reason it should be repurposed!:thumbup:

Easy for me to say, since I wasn't the one doing the work.:001_cool:
 
I got my fan shaped HIS on Friday, and got around to cutting it out of the handle today. It took 20min with a hacksaw. It was some work, but nothing too dramatic. I was lucky and the base was only held on by a ring of epoxy around the outside of the base. So I sawed threw the the handle and a shockingly small amount of epoxy and I had it out. When I get my new handle in a week or so I'll post my results here.

Thanks again for the guide GDCarrington!
 
I got my fan shaped HIS on Friday, and got around to cutting it out of the handle today. It took 20min with a hacksaw. It was some work, but nothing too dramatic. I was lucky and the base was only held on by a ring of epoxy around the outside of the base. So I sawed threw the the handle and a shockingly small amount of epoxy and I had it out. When I get my new handle in a week or so I'll post my results here.

Thanks again for the guide GDCarrington!

My pleasure and I look forward to your results!
 
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