I used the Schafmilch just this morning. I like it a lot during cooler weather. For warmer weather, the other flavors like Coconut, Sage or Ringelblumen shave very similarly, they just don't have lanolin.
The new tallow-free Haslinger Schafmilch: just as amazing!
- Thread starter Marco
- Start date
Just my humble opinion, but I find the non-tallow Haslinger to be a little drier and thirstier, but otherwise performance is similar.
Great review by Marco. I find the new formula of Schafmilch to be excellent but perhaps not quite as creamy as the tallow version. It is indeed slick and protective and I can easily get the prerequisite BBS. It does seem to rinse slightly easier however and Haslinger surely knows how to make soap. A better value in soapdom is difficult to find. If I had my choice though I would still prefer the old formula. Just one note of concern, Schafmilch contains Hydroxyioshexyl 3 Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde which can be a skin irritant especially if you already struggle with contact dermatitis of some type. I personally have had no issues. The chemical has been used in the past in many skin care products but many are beginning to find alternatives.
For some reason, people tend to focus on the Schafmilch like a laser beam. Maybe because of the similarities with MWF. But the other Haslinger flavors are just as good, also. There is a Sensitive formula that is intended for people with skin reactions, etc. Nobody ever talks about it.
I never tried the old formula, but I had a nice shave with new one this week. Slick, protective, good post shave feel
Ok all this haslinger talk made me go through my shave drawer and dig out a plastic container with Haslinger Schafmilch in it. Its stone hard and never used. I have the sticker from the original shrink Wrap on the container but I have no clue if this is the take or vegan version. I guess I threw away the ingredients sticker when I transferred it to this plastic container.
Looking through my emails it's from connaught ordered way back in 2018/04.
I guess I'll just use it blind and enjoy it !
It's a very hard puck - wonder if its triple milled ?
Looking through my emails it's from connaught ordered way back in 2018/04.
I guess I'll just use it blind and enjoy it !
It's a very hard puck - wonder if its triple milled ?
The vegan version has a rabbit on top and says "bio"
Thank you for the tip. I see thr rabbit and the words "mit bio schafmilch". Knowing German I should have read it already
"With vegan sheep's milk"? Lol not sure how you can have vegan sheep's milkThank you for the tip. I see thr rabbit and the words "mit bio schafmilch". Knowing German I should have read it already
"Bio" means it's organic sheep's milk. I guess they don't inject the sheep with antibiotics and hormones. I'm not sure why everyone assumes removing tallow is driven by concerns for animal welfare. Do you know how much meat Germans and Austrians typically eat, BTW?
Removing tallow is more about providing a wholesome, healthful product for the customer. Sure, no sheep were harmed to bring you this shaving soap, but I'm pretty sure when the sheep get too old they are not going to the retirement farm.
Last edited:
Chandu
I Waxed The Badger.
I would agree. I don't have Schafmilch, but do have their Sage and the Marigold one. I have only used the Sage and I like it.
I do. This is a different formula to the current lineup and the performance, for me, is much better.
I'm actually curious to know if they changed the formula of the other soaps to this one.
The Sensitive formula seems to be using coconut oil in place of palm. They've also made a few substitutions for other ingredients that might cause problems for people with skin sensitivities. The scent is barely there. AFAIK, the other soaps haven't been changed to be more like the Sensitive.
I don't see how removing tallow in any way provides either a more wholesome or a more healthful product to the consumer. Talk that tallow soap is somehow not wholesome or healthful is nonsense, in my opinion."Bio" means it's organic sheep's milk. I guess they don't inject the sheep with antibiotics and hormones. I'm not sure why everyone assumes removing tallow is driven by concerns for animal welfare. Do you know how much meat Germans and Austrians typically eat, BTW?
Removing tallow is more about providing a wholesome, healthful product for the customer. Sure, no sheep were harmed to bring you this shaving soap, but I'm pretty sure when the sheep get too old they are not going to the retirement farm.
By the way, has anybody on this thread ever tried the Cold River Soap Works Schapenmelk soap, and, if so, can you compare it with the Haslinger Schafmilk please?
So, you wouldn't mind tallow imported from some diseased Chinese animals being used in your soap? Their regulations are so lax, you just don't know what you are getting. It might not be from cows no matter what the label says.
Check out the EU regulations sometime, I think that is where a lot of this push to remove certain ingredients is coming from. They have had a lot of concerns over BSE (mad cow) just to take one example.
Hello Marco you really got me curious about this soap, any link from where to buy it ?, I'm based in Belgium thx in advance
What are you talking about? I don't buy Chinese soaps, to begin with. Tallow is rendered and then saponified. After it is saponified it is no longer tallow. It is now soap.
As far as mad cow disease is concerned, a couple of things. First, there was a lot more mad cow in Europe than there was in China. Second, it has never been shown to be passed by topical application of soap.
You said "to take one example," but there is no other example. Bacteria cannot survive rendering and saponification.
In short, I have no health concerns at all concerning use of tallow-based soaps. I am a board certified infectious diseases physician with 32 years of experience, and I use tallow soaps a lot.
- Thread starter
- #138
I got mine from Amazon, Sir.
Great, just ordered a puck in a store tin can't wait to give it a try...thanks
I don't want to get into a lengthy debate, and I doubt you do, either. I am not trying to implicate all tallow in the world. Granted, BSE is rare.
BSE is transmitted by prions, not bacteria or viruses. Prions can survive the rendering process. The outbreak of BSE in cattle in the UK resulted in roughly 180,000 animals being infected, around four million destroyed as a control measure. Prions are thought to have infected the animals through meat-and-bone-meal from sheep. Meat-and-bone-meal is a product of rendering. Prions were able to survive rendering. There have been cases of suspected transmission of BSE to humans through medical instruments, though very rare.
Many scientists say around 60% of human diseases originated from animals and perhaps 75% of newly emerging diseases will. There are quite a lot of EU regulations about the importation and use of ingredients derived from animal products, some of which apply to tallow. It may be easier for a business person to just bypass all that by not using animal-derived ingredients if possible. Haslinger must have gone through a lot of effort.
Last edited:
