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The hobby in 10 years from now

I suspect my beard will grow also in 10 years from now. So, nothing will change for me.

For the hobby in general? I don't know, but I suspect even more professional commercialism than even now (which exploded IMHO the last few years).

I think it wont alter we might get more joining us but we lose some aswell.
 
I was thinking that in ten years all of the vintage stuff would have been bought up. Then I realized that our heirs will just dump them back on the market for pennies and the cycle will begin again.
 
How do you imagine our hobby down the road? Making predictions is something I like in general.

I believe that in a decade from now the niche market will still exist, there will still be demand for higher end/luxury items for the few ones that can afford them.
Being an artisan won't be a trend anymore and many of the current makers will stop their business. Less than a handful of the now famous artisans will still be in. I'd bet that B&M and Stirling would be among them. I don't really see any other. Sorry guys.
Furthermore, I believe that there will be demand for Wolfman razors, on the secondary market, but James won't be making razors anymore, he will be out of business. His current business model is questionable anyway. His razors will be for the elite of the shavers and will change hands for 1k at best.
In addition, most of us will use synthetic brushes and brush makers will slowly stop using badger hairs. Synthetics are the future for sure.
I guess we only are a very small, almost non-existent, percentage among people who shave. We belong to the minority. In the future, this percentage will be even lower. It seems that the demand is already not where it used to be. One of the main reasons why our hobby became more famous the last years is because there was a barbershop trend. I don't see this anymore. Social medias played a major role on this. Their power has no limit.
Oh, I almost forgot it. B&B will still be up and we will be looking forward to exchanging ideas and suggestions.

You may well be right. But if I've learned anything in my 73 years on the planet, it's that people are fickle and unpredictable. You never know what they'll want tomorrow. They never know what they'll want. Who knows? Wet-shaving could catch on like wildfire.
 
Most guys seem to complain about the quality and cost of their shaves but do nothing about it. In the last 15 years since the forums have been around the market doesn't seem to have changed much. Its a shame because i think most guys could get as good a shave with a DE and a decent brushless cream or gel than they do withnfheir fusions. I still have some hope that it's possible to mass market a DE razor. The skill isn't much different to a cart and the benefits are huge.
 
Most guys seem to complain about the quality and cost of their shaves but do nothing about it. In the last 15 years since the forums have been around the market doesn't seem to have changed much. Its a shame because i think most guys could get as good a shave with a DE and a decent brushless cream or gel than they do withnfheir fusions. I still have some hope that it's possible to mass market a DE razor. The skill isn't much different to a cart and the benefits are huge.

Maybe we guys who know the joys of wet-shaving should put the word out. What if we all buy our friends shaving kits for their birthdays? Or we could just lend them gear to try. Maybe we could let them keep it if they decide to start wet-shaving, and have them return it if they don't, so we can give it to others. It would be fun if we could collectively pull it off and beat Gillette at their own game. (But of course I'll continue to buy Gillette's fine DE blades.) I think we've started a little fire here, and all we have to do now is fan it.
 
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Eventually 3D printers will drop in price and then you can print your own razor. Like anything , the current DE will Plateau and then decline.

I can see 3D razors becoming the next thing and all these stainless steel artisans will compete with that. Ya steel last forever but with a 3D printer I can make my own plates with different blade gaps and then share my 3D files for free.

If Gillette or any other big cartridge manufacturer puts out a good one blade cart...it’s good enough for me. The Gillette cursed is good, but it need improvement and a smoother blade...but it shaves really well for me.

3D printer razors will be the next thing !

You can print your own GEM SE razor like the TNNSR. I prefer GEMs over DE for My beard type.

Designing and sharing a 3D razor is much easier than waiting for an artisan to do one if they decide too. 3D razors will fill the void.

You either have a printer or send the files to a printer service and have them print it for you.

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In 10 years I hope I'll be StillShaving. :)

I don't think all that much will change. Some products will come and go, but I think traditional wet shaving will continue to be practiced by a small percentage of people, but a higher percentage than today.
 
Interesting graphs, thanks. Is it really a James Bond movie that can be seen there in the bulge? :ohmy:
I got in right at the peak of the bulge, mid-2013, despite vaguely knowing about the trend for a number of years.

So funny how the age old optimist/pessimist battle rages on....

All through modern commercialism, there exists today a thriving underbelly of craft engagement of all kinds. The very same things that the pessimists will argue to be the downfall of our hobby, I think will encourage it. The internet, access to information, access to cheap production, ingredients, etc., all those things make artisan crafting of any kind easier, not harder. Add to that the Millenial/Gen Y/Gen Z proclivity for artisan crafts, and you have a recipe for a bright future. Just look at tatoos, craft beers, beard grooming product, even hipster boots. The list goes on and on.

Case in point - I'd like to see the traffic patterns and forum usage over the last 10 years. Maybe the Mods can get some analytics to show?

Now, here's some really fun stuff...

Safety Razor and Straight Razor interest today is way above where it was 15 years ago, in terms of interest. For the past 5 years, we've had a slight down turn, but we're still way above where we were in 2004:

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Fascinating that interest in Straight Razors is highest in Hungary, with the USA in the #2 spot. But for Safety Razor, interest is highest in Asia, and the USA is ranked 36th in interest.

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I used Worldwide geographic targeting, because this is a pretty international forum. But for those interested, the USA market closely resembles the worldwide trends...

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So what does all that mean? My read on this is that we have a slight downturn in the past 5 years, but corresponding to the rise of the iPhone, and web technology in general, we have seen a large increase in global and US domestic interest in safety razors and in straight razors. Since 2004/5 interest began to pick up, and is currently double or triple where it was...

Yeah, B&B activity or sales data would also be nice. I have been absent from B&B for a couple of years and it seems quieter than it did back then. Maybe fresh wet shaving converts are being gobbled up by Reddit. "He who controls the search engine controls... well he controls a lot".

Who's bright idea was it to include a pack of pre-'16 Derbys with new razors? That blade would be the right first impression to turn someone away from wet shaving in a hurry. Same with the Feather included with EJ 3one6, in my opinion. I have given away some shaving gear to newbies but the initial mindset - something like that WSJ article recently - can be difficult to overcome.

I haven't read about 3D printers in several years, I guess they inevitably have made progress. PSA: remember plastic fumes are not your friend. o_O
 
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It’s already here...I am in the process of designing my own...not by the company below...the link below is to show the future of shaving. Invest in sometime and design your own....now that is a real hobby! Shaving itself is not a hobby IMO.....



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I'll still be shaving with the same razors I have right now...cant really improve on the tools I already have...

Blades..maybe they will have ones that are perfectly honed and never irritate and stay sharper longer...until then I'll stick with my faves when I find them.
 
I'll still be shaving with the same razors I have right now...cant really improve on the tools I already have...

Blades..maybe they will have ones that are perfectly honed and never irritate and stay sharper longer...until then I'll stick with my faves when I find them.

Most likely we will see laser razors that will vaporize the stubble with no irritation. No need for creams, blades, brushes, aftershave products, etc....


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The future is already here.

I do own a 2018 model Creality Ender 2 3d. It's easily usable, came as a complete set and required less than half an hour to set up.

So far i have printed lots of things.

Shaving related i printed lots of different bowl, some DE razor, some TNNSERs and just yesterday some nice Rubberset 400 inspired brush handles.

Apart from that, in ten years I'll most likely still be shaving with a mix of DE and SE with some straights thrown in. Modern and vintage, whatever seems interesting and is obtainable for a reasonable price.

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Ten yrs from now my son and two grandsons may be wondering what the heck to do with 60 or so razors. Hope not but...
 
I think going green will be the future getting glass bottles back, no more carts just plain ole DE razors and blades come as they do now.
It is in the last 30 years where we have been forced to use plastic, with them telling us how good it is for the environment. If you look back we was green, we reused everything including nappy's, milk bottles including pop bottles.

Plastic will faze out big time and as for Communication & fourms it will be all done on video from the back of your arm....

As for shaving brushes we will still have Badger and Boar, but we will lose the Synthetic seeing that is a plastic your soaps will come in a cardboard box or wooden bowl like most do now.

Agreed with everything except maybe the last part. The resources for making a few strands of nylon by machine (in the same factory that makes these fibers for make-up brushes) are so small compared with having to farm or hunt an animal, and dispose of the carcasses. It's a rare case where the economic cost for the manufacturer, and environmental cost for everyone else, are not opposed but aligned. And the product can be used daily for decades, unlike almost all other consumer goods, so effect on landfills is negligible.
 
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