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Tatara Nodachi and GC .76 thoughts

Hi guys,
My name is Mostel, I’m new here. Lurked a while, learning a lot. Thanks for this forum. I recently entered the wet shave world, and having collected a few things before—pocket knives—etc. So… I tried to leap to the best, first, hoping to keep purchases to a minimum. Insert knowing laugh here. So I bought a Nodachi. I didn’t really know what I was buying—just that it seemed ultra high end and very design-y. I wanted to share a few observations. It is really beautiful in person. A design object. It feels and behaves like a precision instrument. I love the sound of the blade. Getting to the point: it is too aggressive for me. I tried several blades in it over about a two week period, shaving every 3 days. I feel like I have a natural affinity for wet shaving, because by the 4th-5th shave, I was getting an ultra close result—BUT I could not escape neck irritation and could not get truly smooth neck. But interestingly, I was already getting way less neck irritation than a Gillete cartridge… so that was great. My neck has been reddish for, like, 20 years—I thought that was just normal. I wanted to share that I found the Nodachi handle slippery enough to bother me. It’s SO cool to look at. It is not truly slippery, but it is slippery enough, as I say… to not want it. It is very heavy, too. So it tends to drop through the fingers—well, not ‘drop’ but gravity and water and soap have their effects. Well, so, I decided to return the Tatura. Be aware, even though they will take it back, you will be hit with about a $40 return fee. I understand, etc. But be aware, just returning it can cost as much—nearly—as a GC. Which brings me to razor number 2. I picked the GC .76 basically telling myself, go back to a beginner type product—you can’t buy your way to instant knowledge, and so there you go. OK, this razor is smooth as glass. I have to say, though, it is pretty boring in the ‘sensory’ department. I realized, after I used it, hmmmm. That Nodachi sure was nice. The Nodachi was definitely too aggressive ‘for me’ BUT… man, the whole experience was truly elevated. Still, though, I have to admit—for now—I’d rather have the GC .76. Partly because I am new… but also because it’s just a no brainer value. But it is worth noting… with all the crazy hype over the GC line… it is the Toyota Camry of razors. Is that an insult? No. But it is not ‘interesting.’ I am getting into this ‘hobby’ because it involves the senses, almost all of them. And the GC is just too smooth to say much about. Also, even though it is a great value… it feels ‘average’ to hold and to look at at and to use… and I do not like the way you have to load the blade ‘upside down’ and I do not like the imprecise way it feels when the two plates come together. While it’s not fair at all to compare to the Tatara, it would still be nice if the GC had a good feel when placing the blade in and putting the plates together. So… there’s my thoughts on these two. If you are a beginner and want to ‘just get the best’, my advice is… slow down. (Could I take my own advice? I don’t know, haha) But—I would say—even if you are an experienced collector with other collectibles—get something relatively reasonable at first. I do think, despite my criticisms of the GC, I would still recommend it, even if you know you will move past it soon enough, if you are the ‘get the best’ type… it’s an undeniably good, utilitarian razor. If you have been considering getting a Tatara, all I would say is, the Nodachi is not for beginners—and it is not for—likely—guys who shave daily. But now I feel the Masamune might be too mild… so my next will probably be the Rocca… all reviews seem to suggest it is less aggressive than Nodachi, but more so than Masamune… overall, Like I said, I gotta laugh at myself (as a guy who has collected things in the past) I can see I’m probably going to end up with more than one razor… Thanks again for all the info here.
 
Thank you for your informative post. Here are some suggestions for your consideration.

Hit Return/Enter a couple of times as you write to separate your text into paragraphs. It makes it much easier for the rest of us to read it.

By GC, I take it you mean RazoRock Game Changer and not the Austrian Greencult. It's helpful to spell out the acronyms upon first mention.

We really like to see pictures of your razors if at all possible.

I own RazoRock Game Changer, Tatara Masamune, and Tatara Nodachi. I have both standard and open comb base plates for both Masamune and Nodachi. Let me just say that RazoRock Game Changer is an outstanding value for money. You will not find another 316L stainless steel razor with comparable fit and finish for such a low price. Tatara is an engineering marvel, but you must use their handles because of the peculiar design choice that relies on handle being inserted through the base plate to center the blade properly. Masamune handle is shorter and less slippery than Nodachi handle. And Nodachi is quite a bit more efficient and aggressive than Masamune although once you start combining top caps and base plates from these two models, that might be less obvious.
 

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Iridian

Cool and slimy
I find the matte finish quite grippy on the Nodachi, add in the dimples and the indentation, so no problem. But yeah, it is definitely not knurled like the Super Knurl or some really super grippy handles. I also say the Nodachi handle is actually more grippy than the shorter Masamune handle that has no indentation and just dimples all over the handle as only difference.

Shaving wise, I like the Nodachi as OC a bit more than the GC .84 OC or JAWS, I don't have the .76 but only the .84P, OC and JAWS.

edit: I type about as garbage on my PC with keyboard as on my phone with zealous autocorrection. Classic PEBKAC.
 
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Thank you for posting this. As a 40+ year Safety Razor shaver for me the Game Changers (.76P and up) shave as well as more than a few much more expensive razors that I have tried and moved on over the last 10 years. I have had Gamechangers since the first one, the .68 came out. I shave every day.

I have a beautiful Timeless .95 in stainless. does it shave better than my GC .84? No. Does it look better in my shaving stand? Yes!!

It really is about the technique. Have you developed the muscle memory to keep the optimum angle throughout the shave? How is your lather? Is your face prepared?

If the edge of the blade touches your skin the razor is efficient. Razors with yawning blade gaps and lots of positive blade exposure make it easier because you can rock the razor back and forth and still maintain edge contact with your skin. Little or no muscle memory needed.

But that's just my 2 cents. Have fun and enjoy the journey. And oh boy! It is a journey.
 
We are definitely agreeing upon the Gamechanger! It awkwardly designed, too long, weird upside down loading, looks like it shouldn't work well but it does. Anticlimactic razor IMO
 
I do agree on the GameChanger being a very good shaver. For its price, its machining, material and performance it's practically unbeatable. If one dislikes the way of loading the blade (loading on the baseplate instead of the posts), the Lupo is only slightly more expensive and an incredible shaver as well.

I've never shaved with the Tatara but I've heard great things. As far as what is good for beginners, in my opinion it is hard to have a generic recommendation because everyone has different skin and beard. Sure for a lot of people it might be more comfortable to start with a razor on the mild side as their technique is only subpar and will take time to develop but it really depends on the person because some people have such coarse beard that a mild razor will force them to overshave and get irritation.

Anyway, I just shaved with the GameChanger .84P this morning and got close to a BBS with fantastic comfort, not a string from the alcohol splash, it is definitely a great shaver!
 
Thank you for your informative post. Here are some suggestions for your consideration.

Hit Return/Enter a couple of times as you write to separate your text into paragraphs. It makes it much easier for the rest of us to read it.

By GC, I take it you mean RazoRock Game Changer and not the Austrian Greencult. It's helpful to spell out the acronyms upon first mention.

We really like to see pictures of your razors if at all possible.

I own RazoRock Game Changer, Tatara Masamune, and Tatara Nodachi. I have both standard and open comb base plates for both Masamune and Nodachi. Let me just say that RazoRock Game Changer is an outstanding value for money. You will not find another 316L stainless steel razor with comparable fit and finish for such a low price. Tatara is an engineering marvel, but you must use their handles because of the peculiar design choice that relies on handle being inserted through the base plate to center the blade properly. Masamune handle is shorter and less slippery than Nodachi handle. And Nodachi is quite a bit more efficient and aggressive than Masamune although once you start combining top caps and base plates from these two models, that might be less obvious.
Ummm… I can’t believe I didn’t break up that long paragraph…. will do next time… thanks for your kind advice and reply
 
Thank you for posting this. As a 40+ year Safety Razor shaver for me the Game Changers (.76P and up) shave as well as more than a few much more expensive razors that I have tried and moved on over the last 10 years. I have had Gamechangers since the first one, the .68 came out. I shave every day.

I have a beautiful Timeless .95 in stainless. does it shave better than my GC .84? No. Does it look better in my shaving stand? Yes!!

It really is about the technique. Have you developed the muscle memory to keep the optimum angle throughout the shave? How is your lather? Is your face prepared?

If the edge of the blade touches your skin the razor is efficient. Razors with yawning blade gaps and lots of positive blade exposure make it easier because you can rock the razor back and forth and still maintain edge contact with your skin. Little or no muscle memory needed.

But that's just my 2 cents. Have fun and enjoy the journey. And oh boy! It is a journey.
My technique is definitely evolving… I do have a good brush and good soap/ cream. Lather is looking good, I have to say. I feel very natural at this overall. It’s good to hear so many are satisfied with Game Changer. I will be sticking with it for a while. BUt as I said, the lust for Rocca now… probably can’t be resisted with Black Fri so soon upcoming.
 
I do agree on the GameChanger being a very good shaver. For its price, its machining, material and performance it's practically unbeatable. If one dislikes the way of loading the blade (loading on the baseplate instead of the posts), the Lupo is only slightly more expensive and an incredible shaver as well.

I've never shaved with the Tatara but I've heard great things. As far as what is good for beginners, in my opinion it is hard to have a generic recommendation because everyone has different skin and beard. Sure for a lot of people it might be more comfortable to start with a razor on the mild side as their technique is only subpar and will take time to develop but it really depends on the person because some people have such coarse beard that a mild razor will force them to overshave and get irritation.

Anyway, I just shaved with the GameChanger .84P this morning and got close to a BBS with fantastic comfort, not a string from the alcohol splash, it is definitely a great shaver!
Thanks for your reply
 
I find the matte finish quite grippy on the Nodachi, add in the dimples and the indentation, so no problem. But yeah, it is definitely not knurled like the Super Knurl or some really super grippy handles. I also say the Nodachi handle is actually more grippy than the shorter Masamune handle that has no indentation and just dimples all over the handle as only difference.

Shaving wise, I like the Nodachi as OC a bit more than the GC .84 OC or JAWS, I don't have the .76 but only the .84P, OC and JAWS.

edit: I type about as garbage on my PC with keyboard as on my phone with zealous autocorrection. Classic PEBKAC.
Thanks for your reply. Yeah, for me, the Nodachi handle—while stunning design—is not entirely practical. If they reduced the weight by maybe 5-10 grams… and textured-up the smooth section a bit… it would be—in my opinion—impossible to criticize.
 

Phoenixkh

I shaved a fortune
First of all, welcome to the B&B community from Gainesville Florida.

If you were looking for a semi inexpensive way to get into the top razors, you might take a look at the lambda Athena and Ares. A new batch that was just released so there might be a few left over that were not pre-ordered. they are incredible value and compete with razors two or three times as expensive. I have two Athenas as they are heritage razors for me and I want one for each of our sons after I’m gone. I also have an Ares on order that will ship out sometime next week most likely. Theo is a very wonderful gentleman and makes amazing razors.

Take a look at his website. Just looking doesn’t have to cost you money, but it might. I have some excellent razors. And the Athena fit comfortably among them.
 
Welcome @Mostel1
Thanks for your reply. Yeah, for me, the Nodachi handle—while stunning design—is not entirely practical. If they reduced the weight by maybe 5-10 grams… and textured-up the smooth section a bit… it would be—in my opinion—impossible to criticize.

Like you, I prefer a bit less than 113g in a razor. I lucked up and found an SS Nodachi on the BST that had the Masamune handle. Best of both worlds for me since I consider the Nodachi handle too long and heavy.
The Nodachi with the Masamune handle weighs in at 85g vs the 113g you dealt with. 28g is a huge difference in a razor for me.

Also, just adding the Masamune plate to your previous Nodachi would've transformed it into a fairly mild smooth daily shaver with a zero blade exposure.

Of course hindsight is 20/20 and we've all been there. I've certainly spent my share of money on razors that never hit my sweet spot. Plus, it takes time and shaves to understand what you really enjoy in a razor.

I also have the Gamechanger and Rocca. They are both nice razors but I prefer the Lupo over them both. It's all personal preference and sounds like you're on your way. So enjoy the journey and my only question would be...

are you having fun? :cuppa:
 
First of all, welcome to the B&B community from Gainesville Florida.

If you were looking for a semi inexpensive way to get into the top razors, you might take a look at the lambda Athena and Ares. A new batch that was just released so there might be a few left over that were not pre-ordered. they are incredible value and compete with razors two or three times as expensive. I have two Athenas as they are heritage razors for me and I want one for each of our sons after I’m gone. I also have an Ares on order that will ship out sometime next week most likely. Theo is a very wonderful gentleman and makes amazing razors.

Take a look at his website. Just looking doesn’t have to cost you money, but it might. I have some excellent razors. And the Athena fit comfortably among them.
Thanks for reply. Man, those look really nice.
 
Welcome @Mostel1


Like you, I prefer a bit less than 113g in a razor. I lucked up and found an SS Nodachi on the BST that had the Masamune handle. Best of both worlds for me since I consider the Nodachi handle too long and heavy.
The Nodachi with the Masamune handle weighs in at 85g vs the 113g you dealt with. 28g is a huge difference in a razor for me.

Also, just adding the Masamune plate to your previous Nodachi would've transformed it into a fairly mild smooth daily shaver with a zero blade exposure.

Of course hindsight is 20/20 and we've all been there. I've certainly spent my share of money on razors that never hit my sweet spot. Plus, it takes time and shaves to understand what you really enjoy in a razor.

I also have the Gamechanger and Rocca. They are both nice razors but I prefer the Lupo over them both. It's all personal preference and sounds like you're on your way. So enjoy the journey and my only question would be...

are you having fun? :cuppa:
Hi there! Thanks very much for your reply. I will be using the Game Changer for a while, mainly because I can’t argue with its value, and will take some time to explore the other aspects of the shave, besides the razor itself. I don’t think anything will stop me from trying the Rocca next year or so… Am I having fun??? yes, this is very enjoyable!
 
Welcome @Mostel1! That was a great write up.

I want to second the thoughts of @Phoenixkh, the Athena is an amazing value, an incredible razor, and great for beginners because it is so forgiving and easy to use. It’s what I refer to as “my desert island razor”.

I also agree that the Game Changer, albeit a fine razor, is uninspiring.

One thing I would say is it’s definitely true that not all razors will be suitable as daily drivers, but that’s ok. It’s fun to have different kinds of razors, with varying degrees of efficiency and comfort, and to rotate.

Lastly, although the prices are higher most top tier razors have titanium versions which can be as little as 50-60% of the weight of their heavier brethren and sometimes even have slightly better performance. The Ti Nodachi comes in at just 66 grams.

Welcome to the world of wet shaving!
 
I have the Masamune handle and both Masamune and Nodachi heads, all in titanium. YMMV, as aways, but for me the full Nodachi head is a bit too much of a good thing for every day. My results are much more pleasurable with the Masamune head and Nodachi cap or vice versa--a really close call. The full Masamune is the smoothest razor I've ever used, including my RFB and pre- and post-WW2 Techs. But they're all in the same category of efficiency and smoothness.
 
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