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Strange thing on the bay

Since I'm on a roll tonight I thought I would bring up something I saw on eBay.

A seller (I don't remember who) had a half dozen or so DE razors listed. Every one was a nice looking well pictured item. Nothing in particular made these stand out, except the bidding and the prices. Each and every one had in excess of 7 bids, some as high as 15 bids (with several hours left). All of the razors were bid up to what I felt was much to high, I'm talking in the $75.00+ range for an adjustable slim. Repeating myself, these were nothing special, no funky date codes, no odd markings, not new old stock and the seller wasn't claiming anything special. Several hundred matching razors were for sale as usual by other sellers. Even the popular sellers, with hundreds of razor sales, that get a premium price for their goods had much lower buy it now prices on the same model razors.

Same model Razors on the same page coming off at around the same time had bids in the $7.00 to $20.00 range with 1 or 2 bids.

Now I'm no stranger to eBay as part of my families business has been using it for many years, buying and selling mostly vintage collectible items. And I must say this stuck out like a sore nose. Only these amazing razors demanded such a high price.

All the sellers feedback and bid activity was "private" (kept from public view). This is odd and you rarely find this. In most cases one would want to let potential buyers know "who" is buying what. The exception might be if your selling something "odd" and your buyers take some comfort in knowing their ID is kept out of public view. I know I've sold rather large womens shoes, like 13 or 14's (Which would be a mens 12 or so) and had male buyers ask to keep their buyer names private by not leaving them feedback, you can fill in the blanks.

What I suspect; Is that who ever this was was running up their own bids, or having an associate do so in the hopes of selling them at the higher price. although I'm not sure anyone would have paid the price these were bid up to.

Another thought was a price scheme in which two parties list similar items, one bids up the items to add value to his associates like items. In effect setting a higher market price.

I detect for a living and I know that when something smells bad it stinks. Believe me, don't think for a minute that someone wouldn't do this just to make a couple or hundred extra bucks.

Disclaimer; I am sometimes wrong, but never in doubt.

I think this is my longest post (rant) ever.
 

luvmysuper

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That is why I always set a limit for myself. No matter what, I never go over that limit.
Whether it was frenzied bidders or a scam in progress makes no difference - I won't pay more than I want to pay.

If I lose the bid - there is someone else coming along within a couple of days with what I want again.
 
That is why I always set a limit for myself. No matter what, I never go over that limit.
Whether it was frenzied bidders or a scam in progress makes no difference - I won't pay more than I want to pay.

If I lose the bid - there is someone else coming along within a couple of days with what I want again.
That's what I do to. I decide what the item is worth to me and set a price. I think hunting the items is most of the fun, getting it at my price is a bonus.
 
You could well be right. If the pictures of the items don't show exceptional quality or rarity, there should be no legitimate reason for inflated prices.

There is a potentially legitimate reason for keeping bid activity private. Other unscrupulous sellers or private individuals can email a bidder and offer to sell the same item at a lower price.




- Peter
 
You could well be right. If the pictures of the items don't show exceptional quality or rarity, there should be no legitimate reason for inflated prices.

There is a potentially legitimate reason for keeping bid activity private. Other unscrupulous sellers or private individuals can email a bidder and offer to sell the same item at a lower price.




- Peter

Hi Peter, That used to be the case, however now the only one that can see the bidder info is the seller. What comes up when you hit the "bids" icon is the first letter and last letter in the bidders ID (a***p is mine). If you hit on that the only info you get is the feed back rating, number of transactions and the bid that was held by that ID.

So, if you had even that info public you would see that the same ID was on numerous auctions. That in its self would be no big deal on one or several items, but if you saw it over and over again on every over bid item it would be pretty obvious.
 
Perhaps I need to be ebay educated. Thought all bids were "private" to people doing the bidding; all I ever see is the "i...p" thing. And I have always wondered if someone is "i...p" bidding on one item, is that same person necessarily "i...p" on others? And, never having sold on ebay before, what does the seller see when he looks at the bid history?
 
When the seller looks at bid history he sees the account names of the bidders along with their feedback score. This allows the seller to look into his bidders in case there is a potential problem with one or more of them - no pay, slow pay, "problem" buyers, etc.

As a buyer, you only see a scrambled name and score . . . a***i (405), o***4 (12), etc. This is supposed to protect the privacy of the other bidders from other eBay members.

I also saw a couple of items last week that made me wonder . . . two separate razors by the same seller were bid way higher than they should have been. The listing wasn't private, though. I saw the same "names" bidding on both of them - in fact, the same "person" was high bidder on both with one or two hours remaining. I watched them both, and both sold to that same "person". I didn't jot down the seller's name . . . but probably should have!

"Shill" bidding is VERY MUCH against eBay rules and will get a seller in very, very deep s#!+ with eBay.
 
I'm thinking there's a fair bit of this going lately... Noticed a few recently that once I've bid on (ie first bid) almost instantaneously get a 2nd bid and run up to well beyond what I'm willing to pay... I'd like to think it's coincidence, but I noticed it happened with a couple specific sellers consistantly...

Wonder if there's an autobidding site that some sellers might be using to accomplish this...
 
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