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Straight razor newbie lessons learned for other newbies

Hello all,

just a few things I’ve learned the hard way that can hopefully help out a fellow newbie. Heck, some insightful replies may also help me out!

I’ve been using the straight razor for just about a year. I’d guess ~100-150 shaves since I can slack off when I work from home. Somewhere around 50 shaves, the terror factor vanished. I am now confident handling the razors. I know it sounds sick, but I kind of miss the terror and magic.

for the newbie: Trying to find the perfect razor? The one razor for life? Don’t stress like I did over finding the perfect razor and don’t spend a fortune on your first one. You don’t want a ton of money invested only to find out it isn’t for you. Just Buy one that you like. Do you want a fancy sparkly imitation mother of pearl handled razor with loads of etching and gold plating? Get one. Want one that is understated in appearance? get it. The one thing I’d recommend is staying away from spike or french point razors when learning. I found they are a great way for me (a novice) to give my self bloody red lines. LOL. Why shouldn’t you stress over finding the perfect razor for your first one? The one razor you will have for life? You’re going to end up with a drawer full of them over time. I sure did. Don’t discount the old stuff from the 1940s and earlier. Lots of hidden gems in there, and not always what everyone raves about and drives prices into the stratosphere for.

Yes, make sure it is properly honed and shave ready. That has been discussed ad nauseum in the threads, so I’m not going to cover it.

Also, beware of all the absolutes out there. “A beginner must start with a 5/8” half to 3/4 hollow razor.” nope. If you find a 6/8” extra hollow singing razor works best for you (like I did) when learning, stick with it. if it’s a 7/8” wedge, stick with it. Use what works for you to get your basic skills down.

THE EPIPHANY FOR ME:
Every now and then I’d get a part of a shave or even a full shave that was just incredibly comfortable and easy. It was like the razor was just wiping noisy shaving cream off my face. Other times it would seem like I was forcing the razor through the whiskers and I could never figure it out. Unfortunately, I changed two things at once so I can’t say of it was one or the other, but every shave since then has been the comfortable easy shave.

1. I picked up a 16k Shapton to finish after my 12k Naniwa.
2. I saw a video that directed me to a 1905 booklet called “Shaving Made Easy”. Chapter 11 “The Soap” states that you should dry your face well before lathering. I have attached the pertinent pages to this message. Now I thoroughly dry and get the lather started a little in a bowl, but really build it on my face giving it time to infiltrate the whiskers.

I Had been trying to figure out why all the videos of straight razor shaving seemed so effortless while I was having to force the blade through the whiskers. By ”force”, I’m talking some level of effort probably measured in ounces, not having to pull with all my might. No the razor was not dull, and no it wasn’t pulling my whiskers and causing pain. It just required force to clip the whiskers. Now it doesn’t. Between these two things, I have consistently gotten the effortless shaves that are smooth and comfortable.

if I had to guess, my money is on the change in how I prep and lather. I don’t think there can be much difference between a shave off a 12k vs a 16k finished blade.

i hope this is helpful to someone.
 

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dry your face well before lathering?! I am ready to the challenge for tomorrow and try it.

However italian barbers don't do like that.
 
dry your face well before lathering?! I am ready to the challenge for tomorrow and try it.

However italian barbers don't do like that.
I didn’t believe it either. I may just have a weird constitution where this works just for weirdos like me! :)
 
I’ve been using the straight razor for just about a year. I’d guess ~100-150 shaves since I can slack off when I work from home. Somewhere around 50 shaves, the terror factor vanished. I am now confident handling the razors. I know it sounds sick, but I kind of miss the terror and magic.
I would encourage you to keep a bit of the terror in reserve. Without it you can get complacent. I know I did and made the requisite blood sacrifice to the shaving gods.

Just unsolicited advice so do with it what you will.
 
I would encourage you to keep a bit of the terror in reserve. Without it you can get complacent. I know I did and made the requisite blood sacrifice to the shaving gods.

Just unsolicited advice so do with it what you will.
Good advise. Especially when you start getting comfortable with the Gillette slide. These blades will bite you if you don’t treat them with respect. It doesn’t matter how many shaves you’ve done.
 
Do you use one hand only or do you switch hands depending which side of your face you’re shaving? I’ve have had a few shaves with shavettes that didn’t go well but I’m gonna try a straight eventually. Although I have enough permanent scars on my face already!
Hello all,

just a few things I’ve learned the hard way that can hopefully help out a fellow newbie. Heck, some insightful replies may also help me out!

I’ve been using the straight razor for just about a year. I’d guess ~100-150 shaves since I can slack off when I work from home. Somewhere around 50 shaves, the terror factor vanished. I am now confident handling the razors. I know it sounds sick, but I kind of miss the terror and magic.

for the newbie: Trying to find the perfect razor? The one razor for life? Don’t stress like I did over finding the perfect razor and don’t spend a fortune on your first one. You don’t want a ton of money invested only to find out it isn’t for you. Just Buy one that you like. Do you want a fancy sparkly imitation mother of pearl handled razor with loads of etching and gold plating? Get one. Want one that is understated in appearance? get it. The one thing I’d recommend is staying away from spike or french point razors when learning. I found they are a great way for me (a novice) to give my self bloody red lines. LOL. Why shouldn’t you stress over finding the perfect razor for your first one? The one razor you will have for life? You’re going to end up with a drawer full of them over time. I sure did. Don’t discount the old stuff from the 1940s and earlier. Lots of hidden gems in there, and not always what everyone raves about and drives prices into the stratosphere for.

Yes, make sure it is properly honed and shave ready. That has been discussed ad nauseum in the threads, so I’m not going to cover it.

Also, beware of all the absolutes out there. “A beginner must start with a 5/8” half to 3/4 hollow razor.” nope. If you find a 6/8” extra hollow singing razor works best for you (like I did) when learning, stick with it. if it’s a 7/8” wedge, stick with it. Use what works for you to get your basic skills down.

THE EPIPHANY FOR ME:
Every now and then I’d get a part of a shave or even a full shave that was just incredibly comfortable and easy. It was like the razor was just wiping noisy shaving cream off my face. Other times it would seem like I was forcing the razor through the whiskers and I could never figure it out. Unfortunately, I changed two things at once so I can’t say of it was one or the other, but every shave since then has been the comfortable easy shave.

1. I picked up a 16k Shapton to finish after my 12k Naniwa.
2. I saw a video that directed me to a 1905 booklet called “Shaving Made Easy”. Chapter 11 “The Soap” states that you should dry your face well before lathering. I have attached the pertinent pages to this message. Now I thoroughly dry and get the lather started a little in a bowl, but really build it on my face giving it time to infiltrate the whiskers.

I Had been trying to figure out why all the videos of straight razor shaving seemed so effortless while I was having to force the blade through the whiskers. By ”force”, I’m talking some level of effort probably measured in ounces, not having to pull with all my might. No the razor was not dull, and no it wasn’t pulling my whiskers and causing pain. It just required force to clip the whiskers. Now it doesn’t. Between these two things, I have consistently gotten the effortless shaves that are smooth and comfortable.

if I had to guess, my money is on the change in how I prep and lather. I don’t think there can be much difference between a shave off a 12k vs a 16k finished blade.

i hope this is helpful to someone.
 
I started learning early on to use both hands. The interesting thing is; I found my left (non-dominate) hand was better at controlling pressure. I'm not sure why, maybe I was more cautious with my left hand. Now I switch to either hand, whichever seems to be more comfortable or make more sense.
 
I also wanted to say that I don’t take the booklet as divine truth. There is plenty within it that I disagree with.

Some is even comical. There is a comment that most safety razors end up in the trash. I’ll try to find that when I get home.

I also fully support “do what works for you!” I am in no way trying to convince anyone to change what is working for you. By all means, please share that! I’m here to learn and value all recommendations.
 

gpjoe

Slickness is a sickness
Hello all,

just a few things I’ve learned the hard way that can hopefully help out a fellow newbie. Heck, some insightful replies may also help me out!

I’ve been using the straight razor for just about a year. I’d guess ~100-150 shaves since I can slack off when I work from home. Somewhere around 50 shaves, the terror factor vanished. I am now confident handling the razors. I know it sounds sick, but I kind of miss the terror and magic.

for the newbie: Trying to find the perfect razor? The one razor for life? Don’t stress like I did over finding the perfect razor and don’t spend a fortune on your first one. You don’t want a ton of money invested only to find out it isn’t for you. Just Buy one that you like. Do you want a fancy sparkly imitation mother of pearl handled razor with loads of etching and gold plating? Get one. Want one that is understated in appearance? get it. The one thing I’d recommend is staying away from spike or french point razors when learning. I found they are a great way for me (a novice) to give my self bloody red lines. LOL. Why shouldn’t you stress over finding the perfect razor for your first one? The one razor you will have for life? You’re going to end up with a drawer full of them over time. I sure did. Don’t discount the old stuff from the 1940s and earlier. Lots of hidden gems in there, and not always what everyone raves about and drives prices into the stratosphere for.

Yes, make sure it is properly honed and shave ready. That has been discussed ad nauseum in the threads, so I’m not going to cover it.

Also, beware of all the absolutes out there. “A beginner must start with a 5/8” half to 3/4 hollow razor.” nope. If you find a 6/8” extra hollow singing razor works best for you (like I did) when learning, stick with it. if it’s a 7/8” wedge, stick with it. Use what works for you to get your basic skills down.

THE EPIPHANY FOR ME:
Every now and then I’d get a part of a shave or even a full shave that was just incredibly comfortable and easy. It was like the razor was just wiping noisy shaving cream off my face. Other times it would seem like I was forcing the razor through the whiskers and I could never figure it out. Unfortunately, I changed two things at once so I can’t say of it was one or the other, but every shave since then has been the comfortable easy shave.

1. I picked up a 16k Shapton to finish after my 12k Naniwa.
2. I saw a video that directed me to a 1905 booklet called “Shaving Made Easy”. Chapter 11 “The Soap” states that you should dry your face well before lathering. I have attached the pertinent pages to this message. Now I thoroughly dry and get the lather started a little in a bowl, but really build it on my face giving it time to infiltrate the whiskers.

I Had been trying to figure out why all the videos of straight razor shaving seemed so effortless while I was having to force the blade through the whiskers. By ”force”, I’m talking some level of effort probably measured in ounces, not having to pull with all my might. No the razor was not dull, and no it wasn’t pulling my whiskers and causing pain. It just required force to clip the whiskers. Now it doesn’t. Between these two things, I have consistently gotten the effortless shaves that are smooth and comfortable.

if I had to guess, my money is on the change in how I prep and lather. I don’t think there can be much difference between a shave off a 12k vs a 16k finished blade.

i hope this is helpful to someone.

Nice post. You've inspired me to try again.

Thanks 🙂👍
 
I’m not sure it’ll work but I’ve uploaded the whole booklet here. Again, please use your own judgement on the contents. I don’t agree with everything, especially the recommendation of a 4/8 razor for beginners.

@gpjoe I'm glad to hear it! Best of luck to you and keep us posted on your journey.

@Eben Stone its my pleasure! I have met wonderful people here that have helped me a lot along the way. I happy I can help someone else in some small way.

clarification from my initial post: by “slack off” I meant on my appearance. I can ship shaving a day or two and it isn’t noticeable on the video. It gives the face some recovery time from an oops or failed experiment.
 

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I’m not sure it’ll work but I’ve uploaded the whole booklet here. Again, please use your own judgement on the contents. I don’t agree with everything, especially the recommendation of a 4/8 razor for beginners.
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I find 4/8 razors require a slightly different technique to 5/8 and 6/8 razors and I think they require more control. My opinion is 5/8 and 6/8 seem more forgiving than 4/8 and are a lot more forgiving than 3/8.

I find 7/8 and larger to be a bit unwieldy so wouldn't recommend then for people starting out either.
 
Nice post. You've inspired me to try again.

Thanks 🙂👍
That's great.

It does take perseverance and you will certainly get frustrated and at times you'll wonder why you're bothering. But the first time you get that BBS SR shave, you'll know exactly why you're doing it. It's the closest shave possible and you'll have mastered a skill that few can do. It is very rewarding.

My SR journey had many hiccups. Cuts were a real problem early on, and every time I nicked myself, I'd try to hide it from my wife, who couldn't under why I was putting myself through this when a DE is so close and comfortable. Of course she saw every of them!😊 Grip and blade angles were problematic to, and something I had to work through.

My shave technique has really improved now, and these issues are pretty well gone. I'm working on honing now, and that's a whole different ball of wax, but obviously it's really an important skill to learn. That to is improving, so I'm mastering yet another old school skill. Again, rewarding.

It's taken me a few months to get where I am and I still have some work to do. But this isn't rocket science, this is just how ALL men shaved at one time and without the help of the internet! So give it a good go, you can do this!👍🏻
 

Eben Stone

Staff member
So, for the past three shaves, not only have I been drying my face before lathering, I've also minimized my face's exposure to water and maximized the exposure to soap, before lathering. Obviously, I have to use some water to make soap suds and lather. It has made a very noticeable improvement for me.
 
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