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Steel honing plate

Legion

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I bought a lot which arrived today. In it was a Veratis steel honing plate that looks to have never been used. The idea is you squirt diamond paste onto it and then hone tools, etc on the steel.

Has anyone ever tried this, either with knives tools or whatever? I doubt it would be any good for razors.

Trying to think whether I'll bother with it, and how. I guess I could put SIC powder on it and use it for lapping.

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duke762

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I'm intrigued....I wonder how hard the plate is. I would think there would be some danger of diamond embedding in it. I've aggressively used diamond grit on a cast surface plate before and the plate held up really well. I liberally honed it with an India hone after each grit to clear it, to try to prevent embedding and it worked well for me.

I have used diamond grit on a piece of hardened D-2 to hone the hard chrome glob, off of the edge of the sear cut on my Springfield 1911 hammer. Worked perfectly. Cool and useful score!
 

Legion

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I'm intrigued....I wonder how hard the plate is. I would think there would be some danger of diamond embedding in it. I've aggressively used diamond grit on a cast surface plate before and the plate held up really well. I liberally honed it with an India hone after each grit to clear it, to try to prevent embedding and it worked well for me.

I have used diamond grit on a piece of hardened D-2 to hone the hard chrome glob, off of the edge of the sear cut on my Springfield 1911 hammer. Worked perfectly. Cool and useful score!
Apparently the diamond DOES imbed in the steel. They say you need multiple plates if you want to use different diamond grits.
 
I wonder how hard the plate is
It is not hard.

I would think there would be some danger of diamond embedding in it.
The idea is to trap diamond particles in the steel. If you want to use different grits, you need multiple plates. Does it work? Well, yeah, but I guess most will just stick to diamond plates, despite costing (sometimes a lot) more. But then, also leather or other solutions work. Never tried it for razors though.
 
I've seen videos of people working the back side of Japanese chisels on plates like that (kanaban). The one I recall used synth slurry in increasingly finer grits. Then he worked the bevel directly on the stones. I guess I don't fully understand why you wouldn't just use a stone for everything but I'm not a woodworker. I assume there must be some benefit. Maybe the kanaban is less likely to take the back out of flat?
 
Had one, MIJ. Didn't love it for sharpening. They're usually made of mild steel.
I use a dead DMT for lapping Arks with SIC powders, same principal but that abrasive doesn't really embed to the extent diamond would.
 
I believe that is usually called a lapping plate. And mild steel is generally not the material of choice. In theory as long as the plate is softer then the item it will work but cast iron is much more common. Different materials have different uses, that is an extremely deep rabbit hole, i have yet to find the bottom.

I have tried to find information on why wood workers use a steel on the back of a plane iron but have found very little. I think it is because a steel plate should stay flat longer then a stone. Makes sense when your using natural stones that can be on the softer side.
 
One advantage of using a steel plate with loose abrasive:
First picture is the bevel off a naniwa 4k.
Second is after loose AlOx 1200 on a piece of 52100 steel. Really makes the hamon pop.
 

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