Some mystery hones and ID help please

[LJS]

Hope I’m not posting too many of these today. Just happened to catch some time for pics and posting.

I have some here I would like some input on please. I have an idea on a few and no idea on others. Some I bought as certain identified/named stones and I suspect they were incorrectly identified previously and wondering if you guys think what I think instead. Any info or opinion welcome -

#1 - a labeled (partially) WARAHO - I’ve been told this brand used multiple stones from different quarried. Any idea what this one actually is please?

 

[LJS]

#2 - another WARAHO. Full label and box even. Have not lapped or anything with this stone yet. Opinions on what it is/ where it is from ?

 

[LJS]

#3 - this one I bought identified by the seller. But I think it might be something different. I’m no expert, so would sure appreciate some unbiased opinion what this looks like to you guys.

 

[LJS]

#4 - another stone identified by the seller. Looks different to me than what was stated so looking for unbiased opinions on what this looks like to you.

 

[LJS]

#5 - this one came boxed but a brand that I understand also used different stones from different quarries. Decent sized at 8” x 2”. Any guesses? I filled a spot someone knifed out before lapping, so ignore that different looking spot. I do that sometimes to keep stones level without over lapping

 

[LJS]

#6 - another large one almost 8” x 2”. Not sure if identification when sold to me so looking for opinions here please.

 

[LJS]

#7 - ok, here is one I got in a lot and have always been pretty sure it was a BBW that was once glued to coticule. But after messing with this thing for a while I am just wondering if it is something different that I am unaware of. There are many stones I am unaware of. This thing is just so much harder and finer than any BBW I have touched or used. Pattern is similar but not identical to typical BBW. Pics below.

In some shots the stone in question is in the center of 3 stones with typical BBW on the right of it and what I was recently told may be a vosigne on the left of it. Last pic is backside of the stone where I suspect it was glued to coti - I partially lapped for flat, non-rocking stone.

What do you think? Just one of the many variations of a natural BBW? Or something else?

 

[kcb5150]

Waraho can be anything imo. I think they just bought what they could of a certain quality or better and rolled with it to keep prices down. 3 is probably an idwal if it is very hard, but if it is more clay loke maybe a dark banded tam. 4 may be pierre saurat, otlr not. Hard to tell. The bbw may be rouge du salm variant. Idk the rest

 

[fatwade]

#3 Llyn Idwal
#4 most likely a Dalmore Blue Stone
#7 as KCB says Rouge Du Salm or a type of hard fine BBW

 

[LJS]

Thanks guys - sure appreciate some knowledgable input. Been down in Brazil so slow to get back to this but did see the responses from my phone. Here is what I can add and now it won't bias any visual identification opinions:

1 - waraho - learned they can be "anything" didn't know if these looked like something identifiable by quarry/stone
2 - same as waraho 1
3 - was sold as LI - but when I got it very different from a large LI I have and I saw all those spots I am not used to. I do not have a Tam OShanter and always heard about spot so made me wonder if ToS
4 - was bought as Dalmore
5 - This was a boxed Genuine Yellow Lake Oilstone in a near perfect box - have not used these before and a little internet research (semi-dangerous) says that like waraho they may have used multiple sources? I don't know obviously. But the stone surprised me in fineness and reminded me more of some popular German stones of similar color, so I wanted to see what you guys thought
6 - was also bought as a Dalmore but #4 & #6 feel quite different so I wanted to ask (and thanks)
7 - Got it - thanks on this! I seem to have tons of BBW and not sure why I keep ending up with them in lots. And I like to use them with non-razors a good bit - this one was just very different consistently.

Thanks again guys - sure appreciate your help!

 

[LJS]

 

[SliceOfLife]

1. Waraho seem to vary as mentioned above. I've had several that looked a lot like Thuri. I remember them never being quite as good. I suspect they may be second grade Thuri's... when the mine hit material that wasn't consistent or fine enough, they shipped it to England.

3. Tam o's don't have the waves and the spots are more consistent. I'd agree it's the "grecian" variety of Lynn Idwal.

4. Looks like some canadian stones I've had. Midrange grit. Magog maybe? Can't rule out dalmore, but they usually have bolder waves and more visible texture to my eyes.

5. Yellow Lake. Also called Lynn mellylynn (spelling?). Supposedly the stuff being sold as "Purple Welsh Slate" on ebay is this material. I can't say. I've had a lot of the vintage boxed ones. Vary a good bit in fineness, and only like certain steels. Competent finisher, but not one I'd seek out.

6. See 4.

7. BBW