Solid brass frame

[VerbaVolant]

The solid brass frame of a three piece razor.

Can anyone explain it?
I ask this question because I have never heard of a three piece razor having a frame, or being built on a frame.
I ask this question here because vendors are using this description and I could not get an answer from any of them.
Other vendors simply state : head made of zinc alloy and handle made of solid brass. That is describing the same razor.

Help me understand. In return, I could tell you how I lost money. Actually I may have a chance to get them back. Very very slim chance, so slim that I already consider them gone.

 

[Gingerbread]

The vendors go on what the manufacturers tell them. Without buying a razor myself and taking a drill to it, I won't be able to tell you which parts are made of what. I assume you're referring to the Cadet razors, though. I got the impression that their three piece razors had brass handles and zinc heads while the TTO models are all brass.

 

[mblakele]

Sloppy translation from another language? Probably most vendors use whatever text their wholesaler hands them.

 

[VerbaVolant]

I realize this is www, as in World Wide Web, so I apologize for the confusion, I was actually referring to North American vendors.

 

[VerbaVolant]

Why do you think it is sloppy? What do you think they mean by "brass frame"?
Vendors (NA vendors that is) use this description and will not comment when asked details.

 

[michiganlover]

I assume you're referring to the Cadet razors, though. I got the impression that their three piece razors had brass handles and zinc heads while the TTO models are all brass.

You are 100% correct.

In this case, I think it is a matter of copying, and pasting ad copy between the various Cadet razors on the Shave A Buck site. The solid brass frame would be true of the TTO models as they are made of all brass construction. I simply think the ad copy from a TTO razor was erroneously copied to a 3 piece razor.

 

[Gingerbread]

The Cadets are described as either "solid brass construction" indicating a brass razor or "solid brass frame" indicating a brass handle. The razors are made in other countries, imported here, and sold by vendors. The vendors take the text the manufacturer or wholesaler gives them and makes a description. The vendors just might not know what it's made of and their source might not provide them with the information on each separate piece.

 

[VerbaVolant]

...The vendors take the text the manufacturer or wholesaler gives them and makes a description. The vendors just might not know what it's made of and their source might not provide them with the information on each separate piece.

I think you are just speculating.
I did not open this thread to discuss why vendors (some vendors), NA vendors, used the "solid brass frame" description for their razors.
I find it strange that we discuss what kind of stainless steel, plating, coating, and many other details regarding just about every single razor on the market and yet, when it comes to "solid brass frame" magically no one can explain it.

Then again, I am just curious if anyone can explain what a "solid brass frame" is when talking about a three piece razor. I apologize Gingerbread, I simply cannot understand the idea of ""solid brass frame" indicating a brass handle".

 

[wagstaff]

I would guess it means brass under the plating. Speculating, too.

 

[global_dev]

I would guess it means brass under the plating. Speculating, too.

i would agree. the only solid brass frame i came across was a black and chrome style 3 piece and my thought it's whats under whatever the black is and the chrome plating...

i thought this tto razor video might help, but it's zinc and aluminum, but i think the theory is the "core" of the handle.

 

[TallyShave]

I think several people have explained the reality here. If you still aren't satisfied I would say don't buy the razor.

 

[Gingerbread]

I think you are just speculating...
...magically no one can explain it.

That's because some of us (me included) had previously contacted vendors regarding the exact same question. They don't know and their suppliers don't tell them. It's a completely fabricated term that we've only seen used to describe the Cadets.

 

[alex2363]

I think you are just speculating.
I did not open this thread to discuss why vendors (some vendors), NA vendors, used the "solid brass frame" description for their razors.
I find it strange that we discuss what kind of stainless steel, plating, coating, and many other details regarding just about every single razor on the market and yet, when it comes to "solid brass frame" magically no one can explain it.

Then again, I am just curious if anyone can explain what a "solid brass frame" is when talking about a three piece razor. I apologize Gingerbread, I simply cannot understand the idea of ""solid brass frame" indicating a brass handle".

Because the solid brass frame on 3 piece is the handle

 

[VerbaVolant]

The vendors go on what the manufacturers tell them. Without buying a razor myself and taking a drill to it, I won't be able to tell you which parts are made of what. I assume you're referring to the Cadet razors, though. I got the impression that their three piece razors had brass handles and zinc heads while the TTO models are all brass.

You are 100% correct.

In this case, I think it is a matter of copying, and pasting ad copy between the various Cadet razors on the Shave A Buck site. The solid brass frame would be true of the TTO models as they are made of all brass construction. I simply think the ad copy from a TTO razor was erroneously copied to a 3 piece razor.

As far as I know Parker razors are also built on a "solid brass frame". I can understand michganlover's explanation, one could use the term frame when describing part of a TTO head.

Don't take me wrong, I am not being sarcastic. Just cannot understand the use of the "solid brass frame" idea unless describing a razor that is constructed entirely from brass, then plated and it has a part that resembles a frame, visible or not.

 

[jnphares]

I received a response to this question from the Parker Razor Facebook page. I asked:

Apologies if this question has already been answered, but Parker advertises that, "Our safety razors have genuine brass frames." Can you define what the "frame" of a DE razor is, in both a 3-piece, and in "twist to open" construction. In 3-piece razors, is the "frame" just the handle, or are the head cap and base plate also brass? I've been considering an 87R, it's a beautiful razor, but have held back because I'm unsure what it's made of. I suspect and hope that the both the head and handle are plated brass in your TTOs (no zamak). Can you please verify that?​

Their response was:

The frame that is all brass is referring just to the handle. The head is made from zamac. This is true for all of our three piece models. For our butterfly razors, the entire razor is plated brass (handle, doors and head).

So the 87R is all brass, as you were hoping. Thanks for your inquiry!​

I still love the look of the 87R, similar to to a Gillette Aristocrat, but have since read that it's a milder razor than I want right now. Currently, I'm enjoying the #4 plate on a Rockwell 6S, which should put me at average to slightly more aggressive than average -- I'm thinking of trying the #5 plate, but haven't yet. I might even try an open comb, but haven't worked up the nerve to make that leap yet.