Hey guys - I am trying to decide between the Simpson 57 or 58 brush with the best badger knot. I enjoy bowl and face lathering and appreciate a brush with decent backbone which is not floppy. For those of you who are familiar with these brushes, what are your recommendations and why? Thanks!
Simpson 57 or 58 with best badger knot
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The 50 series has a knot ratio exceeding 1:2 so in general they will be floppier than brushes with 1:2 or less. What are you currently using?
The 50 series has a knot ratio exceeding 1:2 so in general they will be floppier than brushes with 1:2 or less. What are you currently using?
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If you are looking for a real good backbone I advise to take a look to Case C1 best badger
Loft and Knot ratio provides very good backbone.
If you like a longer handle for bowl lathering like the 50ies series then the Commodore X3 with a 24/46 knot should give you more backbone than the 58 (23/48) and it’s cheaper as well.
One of my absolute favorites!! For me the 57 is a ‘Goldilocks‘ brush.
I once had a 56 which was a wee bit to small. My guess is that the 58 would be a wee bit too large.
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A 24/46 knot would be good, but most of the online vendors have the specs at 24/50. I realize there is variation since they are hand made, but 4 mm difference in loft is substantial. Does anyone know if they are sold in both sizes, or is it just a roll of the dice as to what size you get? Thanks
I took the measurements from the Simpsons site but I have no clue how accurate they are in real life. I’ll look for my calipers and will measure my brushes tomorrow.
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EclipseRedRing
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Interesting, @It's Hedley was told by Simpson that they have a plus or minus 5mm tolerance on loft. I assume that tolerances will be greater on those brushes which have a larger declared loft. So, It seems there are variances even in Simpson variances. I am not surprised in the least.
CH3 Differences
I love my manchurian CH3s but have almost exclusively bought used as the “new” price can be a bit eye-watering. I will be offering a couple for trade (doubles) as soon as my posts reach the requisite number but had the following question: what’s going on here with the loft/knot differences? Have...
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So a couple of data points, they are pretty much spot on. Biggest positive deviation is in the S1.
S1 act. 21x42 vs Simpsons 18x42
X1 20x44 vs 19x44
Duke3 23x45 vs 23x46
G3 23x50 vs 24x49
Captain2 24x51 vs 24x51
S1 act. 21x42 vs Simpsons 18x42
X1 20x44 vs 19x44
Duke3 23x45 vs 23x46
G3 23x50 vs 24x49
Captain2 24x51 vs 24x51
I think this is a perfect way of putting it!
I am a huge Simpson fan (own over 20) and have been lucky enough not to have got any weird variations, but the whole “it’s a handmade product and therefore specs may vary” is BS IMO. Likely not that difficult to ensure a loft is exact regardless of the manufacturing process. My $0.02 in any case…
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You want some Simpsons loft variation? These are Eagle G3s in Super. No special order; they are said to be identical knots. The ivory brush feels like a Chubby 1 in Best- dense and scrubby. The jade version is much more typical of Simpsons' Super.
The loft in my 57 is pretty tall in proportion to the handle compared to the proportions on my 59.
