I gave Str8’s a try and I think I’ll stick with SE and DE. This Shumate was sent to me Honed and Stropped and I have used it twice. The Strop is a leather and Canvas Strop from Razor Emporium and I have used it 5 times. I believe I paid $190 for these 2 when I bought them about 1 year ago will sell for $100 shipped CONUS