Raising a burr on both sides works well indeed, and doesn't remove too much steel as long as you are watching for it to appear and stopping once it's raised. It's probably the best method for a person very new to honing I think.
Finally got it I think. I took the stones in hand and also did the majority of the heavy lifting on my 3k after I had the edge profile I wanted using the 1k on the 6/8 Bengall.
Thanks for all the help and patience. It was great to have a fantastic shave with a blade I beveled and honed myself.
Can't get a burr. Went from 5/8 to 1/4 wide on my Wade and Butcher.
So, I have been doing a lot of honing.
I now use it to practice shave as it is the perfect safety Straight razor it won't cut.
Started with 1k,2k,4K,6k,8k,16k then 30k, no popping of hairs.
Finally went to 500 could not get a burr, then continued with my progression.
Did this again and again till I got to 1/4 of an inch wide.
Razor is not warped.
Maybe my brand new Shapton stones and Shapton DGLP are warped or defective.
More like, I am defective.......ouch....
Might need to buy a Nakayama for my Koraat Straight Razor........
Don't need any more practice Straight razors.
Can't get a burr. Went from 5/8 to 1/4 wide on my Wade and Butcher.
So, I have been doing a lot of honing.
I now use it to practice shave as it is the perfect safety Straight razor it won't cut.
Started with 1k,2k,4K,6k,8k,16k then 30k, no popping of hairs.
Finally went to 500 could not get a burr, then continued with my progression.
Did this again and again till I got to 1/4 of an inch wide.
Razor is not warped.
Maybe my brand new Shapton stones and Shapton DGLP are warped or defective.
More like, I am defective.......ouch....
Might need to buy a Nakayama for my Koraat Straight Razor........
Don't need any more practice Straight razors.
Disburden thanks for the video. I already have Kieths video downloaded on my computer.
If there is a bevel video on the internet, I have downloaded it so I can watch it over and over.
I also have one of Keith Johnsons firehouse strops and Lynn Abrams Paddle strop.
Kcb5150, I try not to use pressure only the weight of the blade. I used pressure on my 500 Shapton once to get a burr on one side of my Wade & Butcher celebrated hollow razor, with no burr.
I followed Korins way of just doing one side of the razor to get a burr, with no luck.
I bought a new razor from the Perfect Edge. Once it started pulling. I re-honed it, but did not try to re-bevel since it was new. I did not use a Shapton stone lower than 8000 on it. I spent many days honing to try to get it to pop hair. Could not get it to pop hair and the shave I got was not comfortable. It felt too sharp, sorry I can't really explain the feeling. It was not pulling.
Had Dr. Matt sharpen two of my Wade & Butchers, Nano and Jnat. Both pop hairs so, I know it can be done !!!!!!
I ain't giving up.............
Guilt........., I know because it is me.
Disburden, I stopped using the strop because I thought I was rolling the edge.
Yes, I lap frequently with my Shapton DGLP lapping stone. I was so discouraged that I
I bought a 400 and 1200 Atoma and a Starrett straight edges. My stones are flat.
Slash, So yesterday, I brought out the Nakayama, I bought from Alex Gilmore....
I tried to shave with my Perfect Edge razor and it was too harsh, Shapton honed.
I then went to the Nakayama using Alex Gilmore's 21 axe stroke method?
I used both of my hands on the stone to make sure the razor was level on the bench stone.
Tried not to use any pressure.
The shave from was incredibly smooth, yeah like butter.
I still have a problem with my razors and the burr.
Thanks guys for the feedback, I am going to get this right.
This is quite true. However, as I have already mentioned, we are talking about an infintisemal amount of steel, and this only has to be done once. You should NEVER have to re set a bevel unless you whack the edge against a faucet or something. Also, in the case of a beginner, often there is doubt as to whether the bevel is set using x strokes, and when you go back over and over and have at it again and again just to be sure, then you are removing even more steel. I think the benefits outweigh the one rather minor con. For those who disagree, just do regular alternating laps until done.Burr method will remove more metal than necessary to get a sharp edge.