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Semogue hair grade - a (sort of) comparison test

Generally I have too much fun and am enjoying myself too much so I fail to see some obvious questions.
But then it is good that we in this community have some fine gentlemen who do see and ask those obvious questions :001_smile

After comparing some of the Semogue boars, a gentleman asked what the differences are between the Semogue hair grades.
This is actually a very good question and as far as I know, it has never been explained or clarified - if I'm wrong please feel free to correct me.

Curious as I am, I though it could be fun and hopefully enlightening to make a head-to-head comparison of (some) of the hair grades.

Semogue has six hair grades; Super, Best, Extra, Premium, mix of Extra/Premium and Special Grade.

And a table of the current production line.
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In this test I have chosen four brushes which are as similar as possible in knot size and loft. This mean that I have disregarded two grades; Super and Special Grade and the reason being that the brushes with those two hair grades in my opinion are too different with respect to knot size and/or loft height to give a result that is comparable and conclusive.

The four brushes I have chosen for this test are: 820, 1305, 1520 and 1800


Data for the brushes

TypeKnot size
[mm]
Loft height
[mm]
Hair grade
Semogue 82021.454.4Best 90% tops
Semogue 130521.454.1Premium 90% tops
Semogue 152021.649.9Extra 75% tops
Semogue 180021.454.7Extra 75%/Premium 90% tops














Test

For the test I chose to use Tabac shaving soap because it is a hard soap.

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All four brushes loaded with ease. 45-60 seconds on a wetted puck picked up enough soap for at least a three pass shave and I would estimate that they actually held enough for a four pass shave with touch ups. I normally do a four pass shave, and it is rare that I don't have enough lather in one loading - but just to be on the safe side I will say three passes :001_smile

First pass: Experience has shown me, that on the first pass for some reason it is hard to tell any difference in backbone, so I concentrated more on the tip feel. the 1800 has slightly softer tips than the other three, and those three felt similar, I couldn't really tell them apart. Backbone and splay revealed nothing in this pass, as anticipated.

Second pass: Differences are now starting to show. There is no doubt that the two brushes with most backbone is the 1520 and 1800, but taking a look at the data I am not surprised as they contain 75% tops and as such should be more stiff. The 1800 is still the most soft tipped of the lot, followed by the 1305 and the 820 (they felt similar) and with the 1520 as the most prickly which actually came as a surprise to me as it has the same knot as the 620 which I have found to be quite soft tipped.
Regarding backbone

Third pass: Pretty much as the second pass. The 1520 and 1800 feel quite firm in the knot and they don't splay as much as the 820 and the 1305. I don't know why, but I am little surprised of how "soft" the 820 is. It is hard to tell but I will go out on a limb and say that it splayed a tiny bit more than the 1305 in this pass.
I could feel a difference in the softness of the tips in all four brushes this time and the order was, starting with the softest: 1800 → 1305 → 820 → 1520.

Fourth pass: Nothing has changed for this pass, the differences are just a little more pronounced.
Starting with the softest; Tips: 1800 → 1305 → 820 → 1520
Starting with the firmest; Backbone: 1520 → 1800 → 1305 → 820


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Result

The feel of the backbone just confirmed that the lower the tops percentage is, the more backbone the brush has (with the same loft height, which is why I didn't test the 2000).
With regards to the softness of the tips I was really surprised that the 1520 turned out to be the most prickly of the lot, it is not much that distinguish the brushes but it was enough to feel the difference in a head-to-head like this. Had I been using the brushes one by one on different days, I'm not sure I would have detected or noticed the difference in the tips.

Is there a firm conclusion; No!
The 1800 has the softest tips and it consist of a mix, and given the soft feel of my 620 the 1520 behaved directly opposite, so I don't think it is possible to say that one hair grade is more soft tipped than another nor that one grade has more backbone than another.
I think that the differences is just as much determined on differences in the batches of hair and maybe also in the way the brush is broken in.

The latter theory has arisen because the 620 and the 1800 are broken in by hand lathering once or twice a day for a couple of weeks whereas the 1520 has been broken in by shaving with it two-three times a week for three to four months. It could look like a vigorous breaking-in softens the tips more than a slow one.

If any one has a take or better yet an experience on this theory, please let me know as I am very interested to know.



And just to show the amount of lather I got in the test. This is taken after I had finished the test - I could open a barbershop :lol:

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Thanks for this post! I was so confused and this helps put them in perspective well.

I guess there are different hair grades but it must still be different from badgers in that the grades seem to have different variables with boar.
 
Thank you for this great comparison. It is most helpful especially to those, like me, who never used a boar brush before
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
Interesting info! Thanks!

Just goes to show you how YMMV this is. I did not know the difference beween brushes and my first two boars were the 2000 and the SOC. Opposite ends of the spectrum. I MUCH preferred the 2000 and traded the SOC for an Omega. The guy I traded with thought I was nuts!

I'm happy. Based on that, I figure that the 2000 would be my favorite Semogue, so no need to try any others. I prefer Omegas generally. But this was great work!
 
Excellent information highlighted by beautiful pictures. The nice thing with Semogues is that their affordability makes it easier for us to personally try different models. Posts like this help provide a wonderful starting point. Thank you Soren.
 
Soren, when I saw not two, but 4 brushes in your SOTD today, I knew whatever it was, it had to be good.

Lately I have frequently been consulting your comparisons on the various Semogue brushes, so I don't think my expectations were baseless.

You keep out doing yourself and we are all reaping the benefits so a big Thank You for taking the time to do all of this.
 
Great writeup, Søren, as always!

I'm curious how you soak your brushes beforehand (how long, temperature, etc.).

I soak my brushes in the bowl or scuttle while showering. I only cover 3/4 of the hairs as I have found that to be my sweet spot. Covering more and there is too much water in the brush and I have the theory that it also would put a strain on the base of the knot. Less covering and there's not enough water and there's a risk of not wetting the hairs almost to the base which can make them break easier, they have to be wet to be flexible.

As for temperature I have the water so hot I can just hold my hand in to it, which is about 53-57 °C (127-135 °F).

Before I load the brush I squeeze the knot gently and give it a little shake or two as I prefer loading with a "dry" brush and then adding water as needed.
 

Mike H

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Thank you Soren, I was thinking that at one point Leon explained the % tops...

here it is.

Hello,

The "tops" percentage measures the amount of hair that has the full length of the loft. For example, in a 90% tops hair loft like the 830 or 1305, 90% of the hair in the loft has the longest hair in the loft, while the remaining 10% are a little shorter. The more "tops" percentage a grade is, the more uniform is in the tips, and performs better.
There isn't any strict ranking. The only grade we know for sure is the best is the "Premium" which is like the "Silvertip" for badger hair. The other ones are slightly inferior than the "Premium".
 
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