Semogue 610 Lather Help

[Nasa]

Hello,

i purchased a Semogue 610, bare with me it is my first boar brush.
i am having a hard time with the lather or at least that is my impression. Regardless if I bowl or face lather, the lather moves up on the brush and accumulates on the handle. The brush itself doesn't fill with lather, plenty of holes on the top of the brush. I have used the brush, or at least built lather with it about 15 times.

if this a normal thing with boar brushes? How do you keep the lather on the brush.

For what it is worth, I use creams and soaps. This doesn't happen with my badger brush.

thanks

 

[Richie]

Nasa, do you soak your Semogue 610 before you start lathering?

 

[Nasa]

Richie, yes I do, I soak it while I am in the shower.
i tried giving the brush a half squeeze, full squeeze, no squeeze to remove water and every time the same result.

 

[Richie]

Try using your thumb and forefinger to squeeze the soap out gently from your brush starting at the base moving towards the brush tips, then put your lather back into your bowl, or on to your face. I've done it many times.

 

[Nasa]

Try using your thumb and forefinger to squeeze the soap out gently from your brush starting at the base moving towards the brush tips, then put your lather back into your bowl, or on to your face. I've done it many times.

Do you mean while I am building the lather?

 

[shaverjoe]

I have 2 610s. One in black and one in red. Be patient with this brush. Both of mine took awhile to break in- well over 15 uses. As with most boars, a good wet/dry cycle is needed to help break the brush in. I would recommend letting the brush dry 48 hours between uses, i.e. if you use it on Monday, don't use it again until Wednesday. Allowing the brush to fully dry between uses will expedite the break in process.

Are you starting to see any of the individual bristles split at the end? Thats what you want to see as a boar breaks in- the individual bristles will start to split at the end, sometimes splitting in to more than two pieces.

I think you may see an improvement in the performance once the brush is fully broken-in. Just my two cents.

 

[Richie]

Do you mean while I am building the lather?

No, after you build your lather and it's already moved up your brush.

Then you can transfer your lather that's in your hand to either your face or bowl.

 

[mdevine]

I have 2 610s. One in black and one in red. Be patient with this brush. Both of mine took awhile to break in- well over 15 uses. As with most boars, a good wet/dry cycle is needed to help break the brush in. I would recommend letting the brush dry 48 hours between uses, i.e. if you use it on Monday, don't use it again until Wednesday. Allowing the brush to fully dry between uses will expedite the break in process.

Are you starting to see any of the individual bristles split at the end? Thats what you want to see as a boar breaks in- the individual bristles will start to split at the end, sometimes splitting in to more than two pieces.

I think you may see an improvement in the performance once the brush is fully broken-in. Just my two cents.

+1. It takes a while for the tips to split. Allowing a couple days between uses allows the brush to dry completely, hastening the splitting. My 610 took about six weeks to break in, but once it did, it became a soap eating, face lathering monster of a brush. Stick with it and you will be rewarded.

Mike

 

[Nasa]

I have 2 610s. One in black and one in red. Be patient with this brush. Both of mine took awhile to break in- well over 15 uses. As with most boars, a good wet/dry cycle is needed to help break the brush in. I would recommend letting the brush dry 48 hours between uses, i.e. if you use it on Monday, don't use it again until Wednesday. Allowing the brush to fully dry between uses will expedite the break in process.

Are you starting to see any of the individual bristles split at the end? Thats what you want to see as a boar breaks in- the individual bristles will start to split at the end, sometimes splitting in to more than two pieces.

I think you may see an improvement in the performance once the brush is fully broken-in. Just my two cents.

Thanks Joe.
I shave every second day so the brush should be dry. What I am starting to see is the hairs bloom, no splitting yet. I will be patient, but it is hard to judge how much lather I have.

 

[Richie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrgZOY8Fb3w

Check out how he squeezes the brush.

 

[oldtrout]

I have 2 610s. One in black and one in red. Be patient with this brush. Both of mine took awhile to break in- well over 15 uses.

Same here. I prefer the 610 to even the venerable SOC for face lathering, it's a better size for my face. The 610 is one of my favorite brushes.

 

[Nasa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrgZOY8Fb3w

Check out how he squeezes the brush.

Thanks for the video Richie.
My lather looks like the second one, too much water in brush. Bubble lather and all over the handle.

 

[gwgrooms]

Glad I stumbled across this thread. I have a 620 - an almost identical brush - and have been disappointed in my inability to get three good passes out of it (I face-lather). I have used it about ten or twelve times and, for the past week, have been letting it dry out for at least 48 hours between uses. I have seen others comment that these brushes do take awhile to break in so I am going to continue to work with it. Both have a lot of fans here so I expect it to get better with time.

If it can surpass my B&B Essential Boar I will be very happy. That thing lathered well from the third use on.

 

[takisg]

Hello,

i purchased a Semogue 610, bare with me it is my first boar brush.
i am having a hard time with the lather or at least that is my impression. Regardless if I bowl or face lather, the lather moves up on the brush and accumulates on the handle. The brush itself doesn't fill with lather, plenty of holes on the top of the brush. I have used the brush, or at least built lather with it about 15 times.

if this a normal thing with boar brushes? How do you keep the lather on the brush.

For what it is worth, I use creams and soaps. This doesn't happen with my badger brush.

thanks

Believe it or not, nothing substitutes a good Badger Brush, no matter what! Boar brushes do not have a good lather flow. I have a Semogue 610 black and a Semogue 1470 for the last six months. In both brushes the bristle is White Best 90% tops. Very good quality, with very soft tips and good backbone. I am face lathering only, using triple milled soaps 98% and 2% creams of the time. With my badger brushes, i have never experienced any difficulty loading the soaps as fast as with the boar brushes, but the differences is that always i am getting a thicker and more cushioned lather, with better flow. At the end of my daily shave i really don't know what to do with the lather left in the loft! That never happens when i use my boar brushes, i struggle to get a second pass! Yes i do soak my boar brushes in hot water for 10-15 minutes before start lathering.

 

[Dave_D]

Believe it or not, nothing substitutes a good Badger Brush, no matter what! Boar brushes do not have a good lather flow.

Not true at all.

Most boars, especially Semogues and Omegas, work as well or better than badgers but its always a ymmv thing depending on personal preference.

 

[menghai]

Believe it or not, nothing substitutes a good Badger Brush, no matter what! Boar brushes do not have a good lather flow. I have a Semogue 610 black and a Semogue 1470 for the last six months. In both brushes the bristle is White Best 90% tops. Very good quality, with very soft tips and good backbone. I am face lathering only, using triple milled soaps 98% and 2% creams of the time. With my badger brushes, i have never experienced any difficulty loading the soaps as fast as with the boar brushes, but the differences is that always i am getting a thicker and more cushioned lather, with better flow. At the end of my daily shave i really don't know what to do with the lather left in the loft! That never happens when i use my boar brushes, i struggle to get a second pass! Yes i do soak my boar brushes in hot water for 10-15 minutes before start lathering.

This is extremely misleading advice, in my opinion. I'm glad you've got a system that works well for you.

 

[Okla1911]

I'm on my third Boar brush now and find blowing it after use speeds the break-in period.

 

[Nasa]

So tonight I tried something new....I squeezed the brush as in the video.
i loaded the brush like usual and proceeded to face lather. Immediately I realized that I had had too much water in my previous attempt. The lather was not as great as my badger brush, but it was 100% better than my previous attempts with the 610.

 

[5Cantonas]

Nice choice. I love my 610. She's great when she's broken in. I did take a while, but I am glad for the patience as she is now a very reliable face latherer.
Never thought Id fall in love with a 610 blonde, in red.

 

[aimsport]

Don't give up on those boars. They will hold much more lather as they break in.