Well, I had a small welding job to take to a guy who does all the machining and welding for my liveaboard sailboat. (I bought a crank online for handcranking the engine, but it was too short to clear a frame and I needed it lengthened so I could use it.) I had just been messing around improvising hones for the Rolls razor, and my mind went back to the blade I recently honed out of the case. I had thought, as many have, that a purpose-made honing handle would make honing and stropping the blade of a Rolls outside the case a viable alternative to using the case. Okay, since I had to go to the welding shop anyhow, I disassembled my most beat-up Rolls for the little spike that the blade mounts on for honing. The part of the spindle where this thing rides is exactly 3/16" and I thought I would take a drift punch to the guy and have him TIG the spike to the punch. After consultation, he said stainless would be better, since the spike piece is nickel plated. So he is going to go through his junkpiles for some round stock to make me a handle for my Rolls spike, and if all goes well, tomorrow I will test my custom built Rolls razor honing and stropping handle. If it works out, there will be pics.