Has anyone had their Rockwell 6S Revamped in Gold, Nickel, or Rhodium ?
if so ho does it perform any thing like the 6C ?
if so ho does it perform any thing like the 6C ?
Rockwell 6S, the best razor for me.
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I've just tried to do a last pass on my head with plate 1 and it was not enough for me to remove anything.When we're talking about "last pass", I'm pretty much referring to the point where I'm thinking "I know this is good enough, but I hate that I can still feel something there."
I think it is very important to pair the sharpness of the blade with the type of plate used in order to get the best comfort.
Today I tried a sharper blade (Gillette Platinum) with plate 3 and it was a more comfortable and much closer shave than a less sharp blade (Treet Platinum) on plate 4.
Plate 1 = Why Bother (pretty much useless for me anyway)
YMMV. Let me give a different perspective: in order to compare fairly, you would need roughly equivalent sales numbers from manufacturer X and Y. Then compare faults. Then compare users (habits). Then compare dispersion values for both sample sets. Then you would need to apply the Bayes theorem for conditional probabilities (or use another classifier). Only then is it possible to say "razor by X is more likely to shave you like a nettle leaf" or "razor by Y will more likely leave a hole in your pocket". Obviously, simple marketing tactics don't say anything about razor quality, but marketing is something most people like to see/hear. Statistics is not and neither is it simple.
I agree. Those are the plates I mostly use, my beard is (still) sparse, my skin sensitive. For me, R5+R6 are too aggressive, so again medium aggressiveness is tricky to define.
Some manufacturers don't use any brushwork (Fatip, Merkur) and also no MIM (Fatip) but have comparable issues. Other manufacturers (Mühle) use zinc die casting to produce razors with much tighter tolerances.
Don't care about razor aesthetics, but I am open for daughter recommendations.TLDR: other razor manufacturers have even prettier daughters/razors that also might shave even better.
That's what makes the 6S wonderful: Everyone can choose the head(s) that suit(s) them. In a manner of speaking, the 6S makes me angry at how many years I suffered with hyper-aggressive one-size-fits-all-but-hey-you're-bleeding razors, thinking that it was all just "normal".
I totally feel the same way about Italian razors. I have a Goodfellas witch shaves differently on each side and a Fatip Lo Storto that it's imposible to align. Lo Storto, especially, gets so much praises in a 300 or something pages on this site and some people in there are trully fanatics about defending that producer that it's imposible to have a conversation with them. I decided never to buy any Italian razor unless i find my way in a shop in Italy one day and check the alignment for myself (i'm not a very travelled man, so it may never happen).Two threads about Rockwell razors lately with concise and detailed assessments of the qualities of the razor ("the best razor for me", "pure magic") resulting in a returned razor and reports about Rockwell support not being responsive all the time.
I had one "defective" razor in decades, and that was a butterfly TTO razor with not nicely and evenly closing doors. I found that razor in a box under the roof, age probably 20+ years, user unknown.
I also have a Q-Shave Futur clone that requires some manual alignment of the blade when it isn't centered perfectly.
Long short story: The Rockwell 6S is a mild to medium razor with R1 and R2 only being used by extremely few people, for most these plates are unusable. 3, 4 and 6 seem most commonly used, with 4 giving me surprisingly a better shave than 6, something I wondered about. I think 4 guides to a better cutting angle, despite the lower gap resulting in a better result.
I will never deny that the Rockwell 6S gives a very good result. As usual preferences are YMMV, but among dozens of razors I have it isn't among my favorites, but rather sitting at the bottom. It's too mild for me and its finish is less shiny than that of and other razor. It's MIM cast with minimal brushwork to remove machining marks, so the plates inside are often shown with crude casting marks.
I offered some excess razors of the good kind to a friend and neighbor less than a month ago. He had the pick of a RazoRock BBS AS, Rockwell 6S, DSCosmetic X1, and beat me, another DSCosmetic or Yintal.
This was a gift of the kind try them all, keep one kind. Seems he only tried the Rockwell, which gives a great shave, and it has three plates. This must always give it an air of being exceptional. Maybe even the less polished finish sets it apart in a perversively positive way, kinda.
I am fairly sure he only tried the Rockwell or picked it just because it had the most parts, but well, his choice.
The Rockwell is much more readily available and not too expensive. Maybe this is why it gets talked about so way mich more than any other SS razor. It usually also is the first stainless steel razor for many people.
The combination of these factors seems to create such a positive buzz that even the most seasoned and acclaimed marketing experts can only smile and bow in awe!
Maybe the defects get so much more reported because so many units are sold. I don't know.
Outside the USA the Rockwell is a razor that often is available locally, without having to import it from overseas. This also contributes to popularity.
It takes a while to find your favorite razor. In most cases it is also not cheap. Für instance, my first choice was the Timeless .95 gap head. Turns out it is very good and smooth, but boy, do I love the 0.5 Slim head so much more. I also for some reason don't like the BBS AS, the BBS A on the other hand is fine for me. While I in general rather prefer more aggressive razors.
Where to start when getting more serious about DE razors?
The Rockwell is often seen as a good start. Merkur 34c and Edwin Jagger DE89 are often recommend as well, and many people stick with these razors forever, and there is nothing wrong about it.
It just terribly rubs me the wrong way when a razor with regular quality issues and the most basic finish gets recommended and praised so much.
There are so many razors out there that potentially are an even better fit, shave better, with a better finish and no recurring quality issues.
For some reason the Rockwell is supposed to be the end all razor upgrade. The one time perfect investment.
I think Rockwell pushes the right buttons. A mix of Lego and adjustable, a flood of positive reviews drowning the also significant number of complaints.
I feel myself nearly again for the razor. The electric blue version is a looker. A few days later the OP reported paint flaking. Bets are on if the replacement will do any better, and when it will be shipped and received.
I would like to be the marketing guy at Rockwell. I would do nothing regarding the 6S and focus on trying to recreate the magic for their latest models. It has become a self runner.
And as some might have stopped reading halfway, TLDR: other razor manufacturers have even prettier daughters/razors that also might shave even better.
It's amazing for me how many people are casually passing the QC problems on some things that sometimes are just unusable garbage on witch you've spent 30-100$. I know this things may shave better then others when not defected, but i prefer not to take any more risks, so for me the QC risk is the first thing i look out for when buying a new razor...so things like Fatip, Parker and so on are out of the question for now...Parker actually has the nerve to sell copies at equal prices with the originals / see Variant vs. Progress - one is made in India and one in Germany - how does that work economically speaking? It should be half the price. But people actually buy the Variant.
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I wonder if some fellow here that is good with designs could create the plate 7/8 design so that we could print it via a 3d Printer.A plate 7/8 would be nice
What I would love is a plate r6 with no flip side to reduce the bulk, it's still my favourite razor regardless.
Used the Rex Ambassador last night, 6S tonight. I would have to flip a coin to decide which is better. I love them both.
As an everyday shaver, I like R4 and R5 a lot, but the R6 plate seems like a slightly less comfortable R5 with no increase in efficiency.
My current favourite, the Game Changer .84P, feels more efficient than any of the Rockwell settings, but is still docile enough to use ATG on my neck, so might be a good option to try if you crave an R7.
I like R5/R4 myself. I just think that the option R7/R8 would help cover the extreme angle just like R1 does.
