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Rex Envoy vs Sentry.

I understand, looking at the photos, I understand that it concerns the upper caps in adjustable razors.
The bottom of the handle core on the Konsul is also rusted.

I wiped a lot of surface rust from all of them all of the threads, the bottoms of the handles, pitting on the stand where the razor handle sits, pitting on the bottom of the stand where it sits on the counter.
 
The worst part of the design is these pins, though

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They are too short to engage a blade that isn't bent into the top cap.

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It is like they never made a prototype. The design is dangerous and amateurish.

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How were they unable to solve this problem with two hundred existing designs that have no patents?
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Yes, you can smash it all together with a towell to protect your fingers from getting cut. Do you really want to accommodate their bad design?

And then they claim their $840 razor and stand combo had to be designed this way because they would have had to use another 3mm of steel would have been more expensive.

Finally, it isn't a good shave. Might as well use a $3 alix kamisori if you just want to feel a loose blade scraping your face at an uncomfortable and skin damaging angle.
 
@helicopter

Oh man, it really doesn’t look good.
I hadn’t seen it from this perspective. Thank you for the photos; they clearly show that the blade mounting isn’t very well made, and I can see it’s quite problematic.

If, on top of that, the feel and performance (effectiveness) aren’t satisfactory, then it’s really not great.
Thank you, my friend. You’ve given me very serious reasons to reconsider.
 
The three piece ones are also two pieces. Probably the main source of rust on the threads

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Bottom after cleaning and polishing lightly. The mess on the surface is the metal.

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Another Pic of short alignment pins with a straight edge running from one edge of the top cap to the other, and a gap between it and the pin.

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It is a fairly attractive razor visually, but there are much nicer designs at similar prices. The head is chunky and everything is heavy. Rex will tell you everything is an intentional design decision, but other designers made a lot if better intentional decisions.

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It annoys me that the rounded ends won't allow it to rest on its side without wanting to roll

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There are lots of better designs, most of them cheaper. These Chinese titanium razors, the Timeless razor, and the Gillette are all superior.

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@helicopter

Thanks for the additional photos; indeed, it doesn’t look very good, which is a shame.
I was really curious about how these razors perform. After reading your post and seeing the photos, I can see they leave a lot to be desired.
 
They have a great website, with beautiful pictures and a smart pricing scheme that positions these razors as an ultimate end game proposition for consumers. I bought all of them pretty early on, not knowing much, and hoping to be done with it, but of course, they don't actually shave well. At first, I fell into a bit of post purchase rationalization and was like "yeah, I like to feel the blade a bit" but with some experience I realized that while that is true, there are other designs that give feedback without the discomfort.

Now I have most of the razors I have been interested in trying, and I have sort of found near perfection in the titanium Blackbird. Using the Blackbird has really showed me how inferior the Rex designs are. But even when I got the Rex razors, I already had a Game Changer 84, which is also way better than any Rex design, but not in the league of Blackbird.
 
@helicopter

Thanks for the additional photos; indeed, it doesn’t look very good, which is a shame.
I was really curious about how these razors perform. After reading your post and seeing the photos, I can see they leave a lot to be desired.
The stainless Blackbird is only $200. Why not pick up one of those? They are fantastic.

I wish it were 316l steel rather than 303, and I think it would have been better to drill the base plate and use longer pins, but that might push it to $250 with the same margin, and the titanium one is there for anyone that wants to pay more for one that is impervious.

The Blackbird pins are fine for assembly, but the little pockets that accept them in the base plate don't dry as readily as open bottom holes like The classic designs. It seems to be sort of the standard, though, as you find closed bases on Wolfman, Razorock, Timeless... some have closed bases but no pockets or grooves...Yates has holes. Yeah Yates!
 
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My rhodium plated Konsul also came with rust inside the bottom knob.

How do you compare the polish finish on the gold-plated Sentry and other Rex razors?
I feel the base plate of my Sentry is over-polished and has some tolerance issues compared to the machined one.

Among all razors they made, only the Sentry has a sand-blasted base plate as default machined finish. Maybe that is the reason they over-polished it.
 
Yeah, considering the pricing, it really is sort of crappy finishing. I get the feeling that a real machinist or craftsman is doing the work at most American manufacturers while Rex probably has OJT and people at a third of the rate.

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Machine marks on the safety bars, bead blasted in the middle of the base bottom, polish at the edges, bright polish on top of the base plate. Why not polish the exposed surfaces to a high finish and leave the tight tolerances on the engaging surfaces? My guess would be to save 67% on labor cost.
 
@helicopter

So, I understand that there are better razors—better crafted, more efficient, and more effective.
Tell me, my friend, did you report the rust issue to the manufacturer who claims to offer a lifetime warranty?
I'm curious about their reaction—would they shift the blame onto improper use of the razor, or would they admit fault and replace it with a new one?
 
@helicopter

So, I understand that there are better razors—better crafted, more efficient, and more effective.
Tell me, my friend, did you report the rust issue to the manufacturer who claims to offer a lifetime warranty?
I'm curious about their reaction—would they shift the blame onto improper use of the razor, or would they admit fault and replace it with a new one?
No. I hate dealing with that kind of thing.
 
Yeah, considering the pricing, it really is sort of crappy finishing. I get the feeling that a real machinist or craftsman is doing the work at most American manufacturers while Rex probably has OJT and people at a third of the rate.

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Machine marks on the safety bars, bead blasted in the middle of the base bottom, polish at the edges, bright polish on top of the base plate. Why not polish the exposed surfaces to a high finish and leave the tight tolerances on the engaging surfaces? My guess would be to save 67% on labor cost.
I have an Ambassador machined and a Konsul polished and they have perfect finishes
But this friend has some really shocking finishes :eek2:

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