I just read in one of the ATT threads that it is slightly more efficient with the classic top cap than the Windsor or Windsor Pro top cap.Has anyone tried shaving with the original top cap and the new Windsor base plate?
I just read in one of the ATT threads that it is slightly more efficient with the classic top cap than the Windsor or Windsor Pro top cap.Has anyone tried shaving with the original top cap and the new Windsor base plate?
So ATT aren’t just adding the SSMR and SSRH plates in addition to the M,R,H plates, but are phasing out the 3 plates mentioned?
I just read in one of the ATT threads that it is slightly more efficient with the classic top cap than the Windsor or Windsor Pro top cap.
It was a response from @never-stop-learning in post #143 in That Windsor Feeling thread where he first mentions the efficiency of the Classic cap on the copper Windsor plates. It was actually you that was going back and forth with him starting in post #173 where he responded to a comment of yours about the Windsor being more efficient than the Karve. It was in post #178 when he mentioned the classic top cap in his opinion was more efficient than with the Windsor cap. To paraphrase him, the Copper CH1 with the Windsor cap was in his “running with the big dogs“ rotation, whereas the copper CH1 with the classic cap jumped up into his top tier “big dogs” rotation. If he has both to directly compare with each other I’d give him the benefit of the doubt.That wasn't my experience.
The classic reveals a lot of blade so the blade chatter is high. This doesn't equate to higher efficiency.
The Windsor prevents chatter so one gets efficiency plus comfort.
I agree with their move to discontinue the classic line.
That wasn't my experience.
The classic reveals a lot of blade so the blade chatter is high. This doesn't equate to higher efficiency.
The Windsor prevents chatter so one gets efficiency plus comfort.
I agree with their move to discontinue the classic line.
Blade chatter doesn't seem to bother me that much, which might be why I like the Classic cap with the CH1 base. I also prefer the Gillette Pre-War Tech to the Post-War Tech, even though the Post-War Tech has better Blade support.It was a response from @never-stop-learning in post #143 in That Windsor Feeling thread. It was actually you that was going back and forth with him (around post #176 or so). It was in post #178 when he mentioned the classic top cap in his opinion was more efficient than with the Windsor cap. To paraphrase him, the Copper CH1 with the Windsor cap was in his “running with the big dogs “rotation, whereas the copper CH1 with the classic cap jumped up into his top tier “big dogs” rotation. If he has both to directly compare with each other I’d give him the benefit of the doubt.
I just bought a copper Windsor from @alabamalawyer and the Windsor Slant S2 I bought from ATT will be backordered a week or more before they get in the colossal handles, so I’ll have to wait before i can try any comparisons. I made a second order of parts from ATT that will likely arrive before I have a complete razor to shave with lol.Blade chatter doesn't seem to bother me that much, which might be why I like the Classic cap with the CH1 base. I also prefer the Gillette Pre-War Tech to the Post-War Tech, even though the Post-War Tech has better Blade support.
Could be my choice of blades? The recent comparison @Neilzebub and I did between the German and Egyptian Bolzano blades demonstrated (to me, at least) that the thinner Egyptian blades were not able to stand up to my preferred Steep Angle.
The Classic line is discontinued, so I have been using the readily available Windsor Pro cap (which is supposed to be between the Classic and the Windsor) with the Copper plates and have found it to be close in efficiency and a bit smoother than the Classic cap.
My current primary ATT razor (ShavingADD can be brutal) is the Aluminum Windsor Pro Mixed Metal with the (CM1/CR1/CH1) Copper plate.
Hope this helps.
Thanks since I have the classic R1 I should try out a new base plate sounds likeI just read in one of the ATT threads that it is slightly more efficient with the classic top cap than the Windsor or Windsor Pro top cap.
It was a response from @never-stop-learning in post #143 in That Windsor Feeling thread where he first mentions the efficiency of the Classic cap on the copper Windsor plates. It was actually you that was going back and forth with him starting in post #173 where he responded to a comment of yours about the Windsor being more efficient than the Karve. It was in post #178 when he mentioned the classic top cap in his opinion was more efficient than with the Windsor cap. To paraphrase him, the Copper CH1 with the Windsor cap was in his “running with the big dogs“ rotation, whereas the copper CH1 with the classic cap jumped up into his top tier “big dogs” rotation. If he has both to directly compare with each other I’d give him the benefit of the doubt.
Very confusing. So the Slant S2 I bought from ATT is not a Windsor but an older design? Here I thought this was a brand new design they just released.Much as I can tell the classic line was replaced by the Windsor (except S1/2) and now the Windsor is being updated to the latest RH and MR versions. Have to assume all the older non-slants are out of production now. So the Windsor H1 is the most efficient if still in stock.
Guess the Pro line is separate? And then you have the copper/ss line... I agree it's pretty confusing.
So the Slant S2 I bought from ATT is not a Windsor but an older design? Here I thought this was a brand new design they just released.
Thanks for the heads up. Wish that ATT would have made this clear in their description. Now going back to the site, I don’t see in the description if this is actually Stainless Steel like I’m expecting it to be. I just read there was an aluminum slant at one time, and hope that’s not what I bought…The slants are from the classic line, they decided not to update the design
That to me is where the R1 classic shines. It’s an excellent razor for two days or more growth. It can be a little harsh as a daily shave though. Not tried the R1 Windsor pro yetIt's all YMMV.
I'm not at all disputing anyone else's experience.
I personally find Windsor to be one of the most superior razors on the market.
The classic and Windsor Pro were too chattery for my liking, without adding additional efficiency.
(I do 4 passes daily. W, X, A, A due to heavy growth but I need to balance it out with comfort for my inflammation prone skin)
Classic line is being discontinued.Much as I can tell the classic line was replaced by the Windsor (except S1/2) and now the Windsor is being updated to the latest RH and MR versions. Have to assume all the older non-slants are out of production now. So the Windsor H1 is the most efficient if still in stock.
Guess the Pro line is separate? And then you have the copper/ss line... I agree it's pretty confusing.
Greetings! We have had our original slant out for about 8-9 years. Our newest slant is the X1. It is a single edge slant. It was released in March of this year. We haven’t had our aluminum slants in a couple years. We hope to bring those back, but we’re still having issues finding an anodizer that performs up to our standards. We’re not giving up though! We miss our aluminum line!Very confusing. So the Slant S2 I bought from ATT is not a Windsor but an older design? Here I thought this was a brand new design they just released.
On ATT’s site the Windsor Pro is missing except for parts and the aluminum scratch and dent razor. There’s no notice of it just being out of stock, and the lack of information is bizarre. My first thought was it was already phased out maybe due to people preferring made in America and basically boycotting the company. I figured maybe ATT changed their decision and went back to only made in America due to the backlash. In their blog from the article when they introduced the Chinese made Windsor Pro, there are 50 comments now dating back to July 2020, and quite a few mentioned they were loyal customers up until the decision to start manufacturing in China, and they would no longer buy their products.
Our newest slant is the X1. It is a single edge slant. It was released in March of this year.