Reducing my Glock 19 grip, eliminating the "hump".

[Jmp63]

Watching with interest! Can’t wait to see the finished product!

I am now enjoying my g19 gen5 mos with rds more. It has definitely been an adjustment going from irons to an optic. My “perfect” presentation with iron sights has had to be re-worked so that now I’m able to see the dot almost every time. Granted that has taken 6 months to a year of solid practice, and it’s still not 100%. A “shortcut” or more optimal solution to getting to 100% faster would have been awesome!

Definitely would have been nice to be able to slap an optic on and be g2g right from the get go. It was definitely frustrating at times. Almost ditched it to go back to irons, or contemplated picking up a Shadow Systems mr920 their back straps apparently allow you to change the grip angle based on the back strap you install. Still may get one someday.

Glad to see there are options out there! Congrats on finding a solution that works for you, again, cannot wait to see the finished product and read your range reports!

Edit: are you planning on running it in your RSO matches when you finish the build? Also, are you adding an optic to that one? If so which one do you have in mind?

 

[nortac]

Yes, I'll be shooting it some in our informal matches. I may eventually get the slide milled, but I''l shoot it with irons first. I had previously used a mount that uses the rear sight dovetail and mounted an RMR, but as previously stated, it took too long to find the dot, a great detriment to timed events, much less a life or death encounter. I may try that again after I put it through it's paces with irons. But the RDS I want is the Holosun 507 with the ACSS Vulcan reticle, haven't decided on red or green yet.

While I may try the optics mount that uses the rear sight dovetail, that would only be a temporary situation as I want the optic to sit much lower than what that provides. I also want usable lower third co-witness back up sights

 

[Jmp63]

Yes, I'll be shooting it some in our informal matches. I may eventually get the slide milled, but I''l shoot it with irons first. I had previously used a mount that uses the rear sight dovetail and mounted an RMR, but as previously stated, it took too long to find the dot, a great detriment to timed events, much less a life or death encounter. I may try that again after I put it through it's paces with irons. But the RDS I want is the Holosun 507 with the ACSS Vulcan reticle, haven't decided on red or green yet.

While I may try the optics mount that uses the rear sight dovetail, that would only be a temporary situation as I want the optic to sit much lower than what that provides. I also want usable lower third co-witness back up sights

Fantastic! Sounds like it’s going to be a sick setup when you’re all said and done! Not that it wasn’t sweet to begin with!

I’m quite pleased with my holosun scs. They make some very nice optics that don’t break the bank!

I’ve personally got a set of the Dawson Precision mos basic blacked out steel sights. They’re taller than the regular sights, but shorter than the suppressor height irons. Also, a bang for the buck offering.

 

[nortac]

Initial stippling. Not as fine as original pattern. My hand is not as steady as it was when I did the original pattern.

 

[nortac]

After “knocking it down “ a bit with the dremel and sandpaper. The inserted back strap is not a 100% color match, but close enough.

 

[nortac]

Done and more done! Just need the optics cut now.

 

[dojpros]

Fine job. exceeds the intersection of function over form

 

[Filudo]

I like the "shave" to the mag release..... I tried a new G 3; and couldn't always drop the mag. For some reason older mags dropped but these new (G3) didn't.... . They drow well from G4 nd G5.
Looks good.
Mounting w no milling:

 

[nortac]

I have a dove tail mounting plate, optic sits too high, lose rear sight. I want functional BUIS.

 

[Rob72]

Dueck Defense has an oversized DT wedge and functional, fixed, BUIS. I file the wedge enough to get it seated about 1/2 way, then lots of grease & the sight press.

 

[nortac]

Dueck Defense has an oversized DT wedge and functional, fixed, BUIS. I file the wedge enough to get it seated about 1/2 way, then lots of grease & the sight press.

I can get the slide milled for that amount of money, but of course there's the wait/turn around time.

 

[Filudo]

I have a dove tail mounting plate, optic sits too high, lose rear sight. I want functional BUIS.

Well you probably did not watch the video. Those plates have a rear metal sight....it's in front of your red dot....so it will also protect the screen from shattering from too many hits....
I just wonder how high the front sight should be.....

 

[dojpros]

Frankly, an issue with the DD mount is that it is not comparable, IMHO, any duty ready optics (Aimpoint/Trijicon/Steiner/Sig/Holosun).

There is no doubt that Holosun is the brand that far exceeds the intersection of quality and value in this space.

 

[Filudo]

Frankly, an issue with the DD mount is that it is not comparable, IMHO, any duty ready optics (Aimpoint/Trijicon/Steiner/Sig/Holosun).

There is no doubt that Holosun is the brand that far exceeds the intersection of quality and value in this space.

Specially the ones that mount with NO plate...... You just put your standard good sights an it's all done.

 

[nortac]

Well you probably did not watch the video.....

Having watched the video, I concede that that is a viable option if one is adverse to permanently altering a slide. I am not and I want the best solution possible and for me that's eventually having my slide milled so as to mount the optic as low as possible and as secure as possible. The Dove kit is a little cheaper than having the slide milled, but not that much.

 

[nortac]

Went to the range today, the new grip angle proved to be advantageous to rapid sight alignment and recovery from recoil for follow up shots. Very satisfied with the results!

 

[Filudo]

One thing/expense to consider: most milling services.....they quote you the milling....that is it. BUT you need more....otherwise it will rust. So the cheapest is some type of coating on the milled area.....that may still rust in the periphery.....; the best option is sadly to tumble the whole slide and refinish....be it cerakote, dlc , or whatever you want......

so the price really goes UP.....

 

[nortac]

@Fluido, duly noted re slide refinishing. With military discount, I think I can get it milled and nitride refinished for about $125 plus taxes and shipping costs.

 

[5whiskey]

@nortac very interesting, and good work. I agree with your assesment of the Glock grip angle. No major issue with irons, but you have to train to present to pick up a dot. My agency is going to pistol RDS. Of course, I can't chop up and customize all of our G45s like that so I'm stuck teaching people how to endure and deal with presenting to pick up the dot. How I train is to lock your support hand in a downward can't. This seems to force you to overcome the wonky grip angle and present slide level to target, plus it does help manage recoil for follow up shots.

I am actually biased to iron sights, but only because im a collector and wouldnt dare defile an 80 year old revolver with such. Glocks don't interest me. If I could, I would carry a 4" official police with .38 +p... just because (and i am proficient enougb with one that i would trust my life to it). But admittedly, when we discuss giving others tools that night save their life... especially knowing they won't take the time to train and become a proficient combat shooter with that tool without me forcing them to... it's probably best to give them the most effective and user friendly tool possible. And even though I love my older pistols and service revolvers... I can clear a plate rack working outside to inside much quicker with the RDS. It DOES have it's advantages.

 

[Hopalong]

Very nice, and some serious street cred.