Reducing my Glock 19 grip, eliminating the "hump".

[nortac]

I , like many others, have had a problem with Glock's 22 degree grip angle causing the gun to point high on presentation and not have the sights naturally aligned. With iron sights it is obvious how to correct the sight alignment quickly but with a red dot sight precious time is wasted looking for the dot. Really wanting to use an RDS, I was facing buying a new gun and related support gear, or modifying my otherwise serviceable G-19. I had previously done some "sculpting" and stippling of my Glock's frame, but had not eliminated the hump of the backstrap area. So I had already "defaced" the gun and had little to loose with regards as to how it would look afterwards, LOL! This is how my G-19 looked after my original modifications and crude, but effective stippling:

@dojpros turned me on to this grip modification jig:

GripFix™ Hump Eliminator™ - https://store.otdefense.com/collections/grip-fix-for-glocks/products/gripfix-hump-eliminator?variant=39916367937685

 

[nortac]

Using the above linked "GripFix" and their blank, one size fits all backstrap, I cut out the offending hump from my Glock's frame with a hacksaw and a lot of judicious file work. The new backstrap was then glued in place and clamped overnight. The backstrap needs trimming and blending with a Dremel before it can be stippled to match the rest of the frame. At this stage it is ugly as homemade soap, but it already allows for a natural sight alignment upon presentation.

 

[DesertIguana]

I own a Glock it is completely stock except for Plug in Mag Well, we were taught to Improvise, Adapt, and last Overcome.

I am not being critical of those who want Customize Anything, but many SHOOTERS have some really Cool Firearms, but still can hit anything, shoot a group, as the one thing they do not have is Skill and Practice.

Cannot buy a good Golf, Shooting, Trap, Skeet, or fill in blank Score with Equipment, it is only through practice, practice, and more practice.

 

[nortac]

@DesertIguana , agree with what you say, but when you "practice, practice, practice..." and the same problem arises due to equipment design (the 22 degree grip angle is a well known issue, YMMV) then you either correct the problem or buy another gun that doesn't have that inherent issue. As stated, correction of iron sight misalignment is quick and easy, but not so much with an RDS.

 

[DesertIguana]

Well my experience with the Glock Platform is if you come from anything else like Revolver, M-1911, Hi Power or any Smith or Beretta Semi Auto pistol the Glock Hold Funny as I call it.


In time you become accustomed to the Funny Hold, and adapt to becoming proficient with the Glock.


Glock talks about Glock Perfection, IMHO Glock I close to perfection, it is simple, it has many build in safeties, and the learning curve to learn to shoot, break down, and clean is fairly east most people with brain can master.


Is Glock the perfect firearm for everyone, NO. What caliber is best in a Glock? .380, 9mm, 10mm, 40 S&W, .357 Sig, 45 GAP, or 45 ACP. Many choices, for people to love or hate.

 

[nortac]

Mostly blended, may need some slight touch up before stippling.

 

[nortac]

Well my experience with the Glock Platform is if you come from anything else like Revolver, M-1911, Hi Power or any Smith or Beretta Semi Auto pistol the Glock Hold Funny as I call it.


In time you become accustomed to the Funny Hold, and adapt to becoming proficient with the Glock.


Glock talks about Glock Perfection, IMHO Glock I close to perfection, it is simple, it has many build in safeties, and the learning curve to learn to shoot, break down, and clean is fairly east most people with brain can master.


Is Glock the perfect firearm for everyone, NO. What caliber is best in a Glock? .380, 9mm, 10mm, 40 S&W, .357 Sig, 45 GAP, or 45 ACP. Many choices, for people to love or hate.

I'm in no ways new to Glock and can adapt to it's eccentricities, carried one as a duty weapon, shot them in competition, had no trouble qualifying with one. But there is no reason to be handicapped by one when there is such an inexpensive fix for the problem.

 

[dojpros]

1. I am a Glock guy and have been since 1991
2. I am so far down the rabbit hole that the only other hole I would go down is back to a 1911 or sideways to a 2011 Platypus which runs on glock mags
3. To a point, there are hardware solutions to software problems with any Glock

a. sights
b. texture
c. controls
d. trigger

The answer re a Glock's grip angle that does not work for you as you transition from irons sights to RDS as just deal with it and train some more, misses the mark.

The pistol in question has already been textured so no value lost with the hump cut.
The cost of the jig may well be less the the ammo to be expended just dealing with it v. it presenting better "flattened" as the RDS transition is taking place.

Rock on Nortac.

PS- I have no financial interest in the jig company whatsoever.

 

[Rob72]

... sideways to a 2011 Platypus which runs on glock mags

I did not know such a thing existed. Quit waving the crack bag at me, man!

 

[Rob72]

@nortac- I am envious of your patience and skill with the fine stippling. I used a modified fan tip to "dragon scale" mine. Its ugly, but it grips!

 

[nortac]

@nortac- I am envious of your patience and skill with the fine stippling. I used a modified fan tip to "dragon scale" mine. Its ugly, but it grips!

My "herringbone" pattern is rather crude but very effective. It's aggressive without being "prickly".

 

[dojpros]

1911 Platypus - Stealth Arms

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[Rob72]

1911 Platypus - Stealth Arms

The 1911 Platypus® is Stealth Arms’ new double-stack pistol based on the 1911 platform. Compatible with Glock® style magazines. With our online builder you become the designer!

www.stealtharms.net

Oh, well, yeah, I mean only $1700 for the Crowd Pleaser. Let's see... If I sell both Traderes...or a Darwin...I'm riiiiight there!

 

[Filudo]

I have read of people that fill in the hole (gap) behind the magazine with a mix of epoxy and polymer . Let it dry and then file/dremmel to the wanted size.... .
Stippling looks good.

 

[Rob72]

I have read of people that fill in the hole (gap) behind the magazine with a mix of epoxy and polymer . Let it dry and then file/dremmel to the wanted size.... .
Stippling looks good.

Yes, I did mine about 15 years ago using Brownells AcraGlas. It turned out ok, but I think the new poly-fill inserts, as pictured are a much better blend.

I can shoot with or without the hump, but my medium-sized hands run reloads, failure drills, etc., more securely with the narrowed grip.

 

[nortac]

I have read of people that fill in the hole (gap) behind the magazine with a mix of epoxy and polymer . Let it dry and then file/dremmel to the wanted size.... .
Stippling looks good.

Since the standard "plug" won't fit now, I was considering filling the void with an epoxy blend of some kind, maybe JB Weld mixed with some of the polymer "saw dust" from the cut frame?

 

[nortac]

I can shoot with or without the hump, but my medium-sized hands run reloads, failure drills, etc., more securely with the narrowed grip.

I hadn't even thought about that, it will be interesting to see how the hump removal affects the manual of arms. My primary concern is being able to acquire a good sight picture on presentation without having to flex my wrists downward in order to align the sights properly.

 

[Rob72]

Since the standard "plug" won't fit now, I was considering filling the void with an epoxy blend of some kind, maybe JB Weld mixed with some of the polymer "saw dust" from the cut frame?

Brampton Tech Long Cure Epoxy has high shock and impact resistance. I've used it to set magwells on cutdown Sig P320 frames with great success.

West System 2 part epoxy. I read on several knife-makers' forums that this was a favorite for waterproofing hollow handle knives and locking short tangs in place. Obviously, also highly shock resistant.

And the aforementioned AcraGlas. I like it, but. It is a bugger stippling. Being more fibrous, it does not blend well with the frame. JB Weld isn't a whole lot different, based on a friend's experience. Just to fill a hole, either of these is great, but may not blend as well if exposed.

I really, really, like the Brampton. I've cut down several X Frames to accept compact mags and using either full or compact slides. The magwells take a hammering, and I've not seen flaking, cracking or separation.

 

[Filudo]

One more option for a G grip: SCT. Aimsurplus has them on sale for cheap (naked), the ones w all the parts (are NOT worth it...those parts are flimsy.....). Basspro sells the full lower, you can go get a "grip" and see if that is something you may like?

 

[nortac]

^ Thanks, but I've solved my problem!