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I myself find rap to be inane, repetitious and with lyrics that I find dificult to understand.
When I can discern the words I most often do not like the message.
Not to mention all that bass.
What about the rest of you?
 
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I think there is an awful lot of anti-rap/hip-hop sentiment on the forum already, and that it's more constructive to talk about music that you actually like.
 
I think there is an awful lot of anti-rap/hip-hop sentiment on the forum already, and that it's more constructive to talk about music that you actually like.

Sorry I brought it up.
I guess the parade of cars going by the open front door as I was trying to browse the forum and enjoy the the afternoon breeze got to me.
My apologies.
 
Sorry I brought it up.
I guess the parade of cars going by the open front door as I was trying to browse the forum and enjoy the the afternoon breeze got to me.
My apologies.

Don't be sorry......I think we're all grown enough to be able to talk about likes and dislikes! Personally I'm not a fan of rap but I hate "popular" pop even worse. I think Lady Gaga is about as far away from "music" as you can get.......but she sells the records.
 
I liked the 80's 90's rap. N.W.A and there solo careers like Eazy E, Ice Cube, Dre. I also liked Snoop, Too Short. etc. Some of the stuff today like all the Gangsta Rap of today I don't like. Tupac was ok sometimes but he could go overboard too. I never liked Biggie. For the most part though I like Classic Rock, 80's hair bands, 90's grunge
 
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I liked the 80's 90's rap. N.W.A and there solo careers like Eazy E, Ice Cube, Dre. I also liked Snoop, Too Short. etc. Some of the stuff today like all the Gangsta Rap I don't like. Tupac was ok sometimes but he could go overboard too. I never liked Biggie. For the most part though I like Classic Rock, 80's hair bands, 90's grunge

This post is confusing. NWA, Easy E, Ice Cube, and Dr. Dre of the 80s and 90s are the epitome of gangsta rap.
 
Yea your right, i guess what i was trying to say was today's Gangsta Rap. I like the Gangsta Rap of my day I guess. I'm too old for today's rap.lol. I edited it to clarify what i was trying to say.

This post is confusing. NWA, Easy E, Ice Cube, and Dr. Dre of the 80s and 90s are the epitome of gangsta rap.
 
I may not agree with the message behind it all the time, but I still appreciate and enjoy listening to hip-hop. At its core it tells a story with poetry, and takes a lot of creativity to come up with. Sure a lot of times you hear rappers and it's all about talking about how great they are and how every other rapper sucks, but that's a part of hip-hop too...standing up for yourself. That's a positive message in and of itself.

I make electronic music as a hobby, so I find hip-hop a great inspiration, taking note of the creative uses of sampling and making/arrangement of beats. Plus, there is plenty of socially conscious & positive hip-hop music out there.
 
I used to like rap. Back in the late 1980s and very early 1990s. It was fresh, new and interesting.

Then rap stagnated into formulaic crap, intended solely to make money. So sad. It could have been so much more. I still keep some Public Enemy, De La Soul and a few others around to listen to, though.

I still check in now and then to make sure that I'm not overlooking anything worthwhile. I don't think I have. The genre has become incredibly conservative. I don't mean in terms of message. Muscially, it rarely deviates from the norm and it never innovates. In a musical sense, rap is much, much more conservative than even classical. 20th century classical still pushes the envelope. Rap doesn't.
 
I think a lot of people weaned on Eric B and Rakim, BDP, or Public Enemy might be inclined to agree. I checked out when it became apparent that West Coast was going to be the order of the day (not that Eazy-E and NWA didn't have some catchy, um, shiznit).

If you can listen to Paid in Full or White Lines and not get caught by the hook, then I feel kind of bad for you.
 
I blame a lot of rap's downturn on the South. Southern "party" rap, as I call it, has caused a trend towards pop radio and club music. The substance is minimal, at best, but it sells. You don't actually have to think about the lyrics or subject matter. Just move. Seeing the obvious success, rappers from other places are jumping on the bandwagon. Even rappers who at one time were good are now churning out garbage. I shudder to think that a generation of rap fans are being groomed on the works of Pit Bull, Slim Thug, Birdman, et al.
 
I definitely dig rap music. Yeah, some of it is just garbage, but once in a while, you can find a gem. Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, Jay-Z are all examples of good rap music. There are plenty of others, but those are the artists that I can name off the top of my head.

Different strokes for different folks.
 
I'm old & I like a lot of hip-hop.


...rap probably saved popular music, too - but that was a long time ago.

same. i'm 38 and still listen to rap. but I think the genre has morphed over the years and has come to mean different things to different people. when I think of the term 'rap' I think of a lot of the stuff you hear on top 40 radio like 50 cent, Eminem, Xzibit, Jay-Z, etc. I prefer the term hip hop as it's spans a broader range of artists/producers who have very different styles. I grew up listening to a lot of this stuff like Run DMC, Beastie Boys, Eric B & Rakim, Public Enemy, Afrika Bambaata, Biz Markie, etc, and still listen to a lot of indie hip hop from around the US, Japan, France, England and more. the truth is, the recent trend in some rap music has really turned me off. I don't need to listen to music that glorifies violence, is mysoginistic or talks about how big my rims are or how much money I have. I don't relate to it. nowadays I prefer indie stuff from labels like Def Jux, Anticon, Big Dada, etc.

let's not forget that a lot of hip hop in the 80's & 90's often had a political/social message, so casting generalizations about a genre of music does it a disservice - this would be no more insulting than me saying all country music sounds the same
 
I really like rap that has verses and lyrics. What I don't like is the newer rap that is all about the hook and has no substance. I find myself recently watching battle rap on youtube to get my rap fix. Their lines are more creative and the whole freestyle vibe makes it more interesting to listen to.
 
I seem to be like some others on this thread in thinking rap used to be good up until the early nineties. Maybe it's just my age or maybe the genre actually changed for the worse. The likes of Public Enemy and Ice T had something to say and didn't care if you liked what they said or not. This is music at it's best when you have angry people demanding to be given a voice in the hope of changing something. The punk scene and even the likes of Floyd, The Who and The Stones have all had periods where they produced some great music when they were angry. These days it all seems to be people gloating about how much money they have, what cars they've got and how many women they've slept with. To be frank it's boring and a poor imitation of what it once was.
 
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