Like many of you, I use both coticules and JNATs for honing. Just fun to use both and both offer different edges. I was curious, however, if one could use a coticule slurry stone to raise slurry on a JNAT? Would it damage the JNAT in any way? Thanks for your reply.
Raising Slurry on JNAT
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I guess it would depend on what knit in regards to K.
Garnet in cotis don't break down like jnat. So their presence in your jnat slurry would be a function of the garnet from the coticle.
Garnet in cotis don't break down like jnat. So their presence in your jnat slurry would be a function of the garnet from the coticle.
I've tried a bunch of natural stone slurries on a hard cnat. Fun experimentation.
Back to your question i didn't really answer.
Your jnat likely would get some scratches from the garnet. Maybe even a stuck garnet.
Back to your question i didn't really answer.
Your jnat likely would get some scratches from the garnet. Maybe even a stuck garnet.
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This is what I suspected.
You reckon? I would have thought that we wouldn't be able to see the scratch from a garnet on a JNAT.
Maybe, I am no rock doc or expert by far, but I have seen some scratches on some stones so I would think it possible.
To me, that would kind of defeat the purpose of using a Jnat. I wouldn't want to co-mingle coticule slurry with Jnat slurry in any way on a Jnat....but that's me...
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Hybrid mojo? Someone trying to make it look like they didn't get it wrong????
I would say not a good idea. The JNAT particles break down and become finer as you hone on them, not so with garnets.
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Noope! Some things just need prophylactic consideration:
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I lap Jnats with a BBW - no scratches.
I've lapped them with Cotis too - no scratches there either.
I've lapped them with Cotis too - no scratches there either.
Lap, yes. Hone with mixed slurry, not for me.
i wouldn't.... *(and i experiment a LOT)
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I didn't. I was just curious.
I did that experiment too, didn't work for me. You get only coti slurry on the Jnat, because it is much softer, at least my Jnat is much harder than my coti.
I did the experiment a couple of times with a Cnat (C12K, PHIG or guanxi hone) with Coticule slurry, after a bevel reset on the 1K stone I raised a Coti slurry on the Cnat and went trough the dilutions as usual but instead of going to water only I followed by making a Cnat slurry and dilutions again.
It worked great, got a great edge and a smooth and close shave.
I tried it once on my Jnat (shoubudani) so instead of using the asano naguras I used a Coticule slurry followed by tomo nagura but somehow it didn't really work out. I'm sure it could work with careful dilutions but I don't really see the point as those naguras make a great system that's been good enough for hundreds of years.
But the combination of a cheap Cnat and a small Coticule slurry stone and the slurry stone that comes with the Cnat can make a great low budget system needing only a bevel setter to make it a complete system that can take any edge to shave ready. Maybe not the best system but it works and it's cheap.
YMMV off course, I have a big Cnat (8X3) and liked it a lot but since I got better with the Coticule and I have a Jnat it doesn't see much use anymore except for my pocket knives (I can and have shaved with my Opinel carbon steel pocket knive).
It worked great, got a great edge and a smooth and close shave.
I tried it once on my Jnat (shoubudani) so instead of using the asano naguras I used a Coticule slurry followed by tomo nagura but somehow it didn't really work out. I'm sure it could work with careful dilutions but I don't really see the point as those naguras make a great system that's been good enough for hundreds of years.
But the combination of a cheap Cnat and a small Coticule slurry stone and the slurry stone that comes with the Cnat can make a great low budget system needing only a bevel setter to make it a complete system that can take any edge to shave ready. Maybe not the best system but it works and it's cheap.
YMMV off course, I have a big Cnat (8X3) and liked it a lot but since I got better with the Coticule and I have a Jnat it doesn't see much use anymore except for my pocket knives (I can and have shaved with my Opinel carbon steel pocket knive).
Well, there you go... no scratches... still not gonna try lapping or slurry
