Pistol Grip Ban

[malocchio]

NYC has banned pistol grips on shotguns...for home defense,utilizing a shotgun, I am a big fan of pistol grips.More manueverability means better defense in rapid situations...The Mossberg Mariner with 9 rounds of 12 gauge (once also available in 20 gauge) is a moisture resistant workhorse,and is tailor made for pistol grips.

 

[Acmemfg]

Judging from that picture, I think that's a 14" barrel....also banned by most state law

 

[Shave_Rat]

Judging from that picture, I think that's a 14" barrel....also banned by most state law

Assuming a magazine made to take eight 2 3/4" shells, that would put that barrel just over 22"... legal in most states I am aware of.

 

[Acmemfg]

The aforementioned shotgun looks to be a Mossberg 500.

For comparison...
Here is a Remington 870 Super Magnum. Barrel is 19 1/2" from muzzle to bolt face (closed). This is how BATFE measures barrel length for enforcement purposes.
The magazine here is for four 2 3/4" standard shells (fewer magnum rounds)

So, judging on relative length of barrel to receiver and magazine tube to receiver...still looks like 14" to me

 

[Mick]

Does the NY thing cover pistol gripped stocks or just straight grips?

 

[Shave_Rat]

Ah, the pic isn't a stock Mossberg 500, it seems. I was only doing the math figuring the magazine had to fit 8 shells, and assuming (which was the fail) the one pictured was a stock model with stock magazine.

 

[FiveOhNine]

Does the NY thing cover pistol gripped stocks or just straight grips?

I'm guessing anything which 'looks scary', so probably both. I haven't seen the text published yet.

 

[malocchio]

Here are the stock photos of both models...the pistol grip comes with the package...The first photo above is of a custom 14" barrel,and yes,illegal in some states...

 

[Budgeteer]

A pistol grip is a fine thing when used in conjunction with a full/collapsable stock of some kind, but I don't think increased maneuverability in the case of a pistol-grip only shotgun trumps increased accuracy when the butt of that thing is in the shoulder where it needs to be. Accuracy isn't negotiable in home/self defense situations and shouldn't be sacrificed for maneuverability.

 

[Mick]

Does the NY thing cover pistol gripped stocks or just straight grips?

I'm guessing anything which 'looks scary', so probably both. I haven't seen the text published yet.

If they are going to start banning things that "looks scary" NY is going to be a pretty empty state as I have seen some pretty scary people living there

 

[Lion and the Fox]

If they are going to start banning things that "looks scary" NY is going to be a pretty empty state as I have seen some pretty scary people living there

LOL! I personally prefer a pistol grip for home defense (personal preference). I recently traded an AR for cash and a Mossberg 500 Chainsaw and love the combination. It's unfortunate that these limitations are being made that directly affect law-abiding citizens.

 

[nymtber]

I prefer standard stock for everything. BUT, I shoot skeet and sporting clays a bit, and, for me, a standard stock is FAST to the shoulder, I shoot everything low-gun. Pump guns in NY should be OK with pistol grip. I think. Who knows...

 

[eightysixCJ]

NYC has prohibited folding/collapsible stocks and stocks with "pistol" grips, one that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action, of long guns for a while. Last week NYS passed legislation making things tighter for the rest of the state for semi-auto firearms with pistol grips or thumbhole stocks and other "assault weapon" features.

[url]http://www.governor.ny.gov/2013/gun-reforms-faq[/URL]

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013

Tom