oil on jnat for slurry?

[smalltank]

I couldnt find much about it online..ok..coti+slurry stone....jnat+jnat stone..but what about oil for jnat..I use Camellia Oil on my combo coti..works better for ME than using slurry stone IMO..thoughts?..no..I dont have a jnat..just doing some research here...

 

[Woodash]

I couldnt find much about it online..ok..coti+slurry stone....jnat+jnat stone..but what about oil for jnat..I use Camellia Oil on my combo coti..works better for ME than using slurry stone IMO..thoughts?..no..I dont have a jnat..just doing some research here...

Well, to me, using oil instead of slurry in large measure defeats the whole purpose/method of honing with a Jnat.

 

[Kentos]

Also some Jnats are quite porous, and the oil will likely impregnate your stone if it is one of them.

 

[mainaman]

Oil will soak up in the Jnat, may be ruin the qualities, one thing is sure in Japan they do not use oil with those stones, probably for a reason.

 

[Krodor]

...and then 9 months later you'd have greasy little rocks shaped like Mount Fuji....

Slurry stone would be used to speed up the honing, oil tends to slow it down, yes?

 

[Alum of Potash]

one thing is sure in Japan they do not use oil with those stones, probably for a reason.

Following this, do the Belgians use oil with their coticules?

 

[paco664]

oil on a coti is ok...... great even...

oil on jnat NO NO NO NO...

 

[mainaman]

Following this, do the Belgians use oil with their coticules?

yes you can and it's been done, I am not sure if coticules soak up water/oil or not though.
In any case coticules and Jnats are completely different rocks by composition, action and results, direct comparisons as far as oil use would not be accurate.

 

[professorchaos]

...and then 9 months later you'd have greasy little rocks shaped like Mount Fuji....

Slurry stone would be used to speed up the honing, oil tends to slow it down, yes?

Greatly simplifying here ... Not exactly. A series of nagura - think of them as slurry stones - are used on a single Japanese hone to take an edge from relatively dull to exceedingly sharp. Unlike the garnets in a Coticule, the slurry raised from a Japanese hone & nagura will break down into finer particles as you hone. So while the final slurry, or mud, might start at 10K it will be much finer when you finish honing.

 

[Krodor]

Greatly simplifying here ... Not exactly. A series of nagura - think of them as slurry stones - are used on a single Japanese hone to take an edge from relatively dull to exceedingly sharp. Unlike the garnets in a Coticule, the slurry raised from a Japanese hone & nagura will break down into finer particles as you hone. So while the final slurry, or mud, might start at 10K it will be much finer when you finish honing.

Many thanks. Always meant to read a "how-to" on JNats, i appreciate the info and education.

 

[professorchaos]

Jim Rion is the man for all sorts of good info on Japanese hones.

Honing on J-Nats: http://easternsmooth.com/blog/jim-rion/2010/05/23/324-honing-japanese-naturals