I am having problems setting a bevel and working up to finer stones. with the x pattern I am getting a uneven bevel. on all the stones. all i have are narrow stones small dmt's and spyderco's. my progession is dmt small in fine to set the bevel. then to the dmt extra fine then to the spyderco fine then to the ultra fine. so with the x pattern the razor is not on the stone for the same amount of stroke as say a 3 inch wide or larger stone that the full length of the razor can be ran across the stone. so I tryed a different aproach to the narrow hones. I honed the razor with the razor on the stone with the head to the edge of the stone like the you would with a larger hone but with the heel off of the stone made 1 pass up and one pass down then moved the heel of the razor to the stone edge with the head extending off of the stone with 1 pass up and 1 down in that mannor like i was using a larger stone. and after progresing through the stones I had a even bevel and a super sharp razor. the razor by the way is a cheep DA that I could never get a good shave from. I think it is because I have never recived a good shave from a full hollow razor anyway. I like 1/4 to 1/2 hollow razors. has anyone ever tryed this method of honing a razor with a narrow hone and have it work for them also