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Hi There,

First time poster on the forums. Mini primer: & I'm just into my 7th day of using a safety razor. My awareness of traditional safety razor shaving has been for less than a month. I thought that shifting over from the only razor I know of, a gillette mach3, would be tough & slightly dangerous, but not-so-strangely, the transition has been pretty smooth. My "quest" for alternative products began just under 3 weeks ago when I was sick of my gillette white plastic face poking brush. I was frustrated with the plastic mass scratching against my face & creating more facial pores.

A few lazy inquiries later at stores nearby, & I realized that I was surrounded by gillette in every form and everywhere. A few online searches later & I was shocked to find that there were forums exclusively dedicated to shaving. The discovery & the subsequent information:- badger, boar, safety,nonsafety, balm, creams, preshave - was so overwhelming, that I did not bother to look more into it..........that's until two weeks ago, when my friend was coming to India, where I stay. Since I had 5 days left, a quick glance at the forums, some mantic videos, a cursory glance at Corey Greenberg's blog (shaveblog.com) later & ..I was confused further:biggrin1:.

Anyways, as a starter kit, got a merkur long handle, an astra platinums 100 pack, lots of feather blades (which I'm apprehensive about, after reading Corey's post on his blog & how they felt on his face after prolonged usage), an omega badger brush, proraso, VDH soap to last 3 generations & a billy jealousy gel (based on a personal recommendation). In retrospect, I would have surely got a few more things, but I was so pressed for time, that I did not think more into it. I was more worried whether things would reach my friend on time.

I used to absolutely loathe shaving & was a bit skeptical after looking at some of mantic's videos, expecially one where he described "the satisfying sound of hearing the blade cleanly cut through the hair" which I thought was amusing...at least initially. Now after 12 obsessive shaves within the first 6 days, I totally agree with what he says. Nearly of them have been slightly uncomfortable, with a burning sensation near specific areas of my jawline, but overall, it's been pretty good & it's undoubtedly been some of the best shaves that I have ever had. I don't ever remember looking in the mirror and thinking "what a great shave"...until now..that is. I still can't navigate below the nose properly (something to do with the arc on the top of the merkur) & use my mach3 in that area. I don't think I'll even try going against the grain...but looks like I'm permanently off my disposable razors. Again, not because I was unsatisfied wit the mach3 or the price of the cartridge or other variables concerning my shave, these razors just feel better & I do, at least now, understand the ritualistic nature of a safety/straight razor. It does take a little more time & I cannot do my super fast mach 3 shaving, but the trade-offs (if any) are small.

Present mix: one old plastic mug + a small dollop of yardley cream+ a small dollop of proraso + (this miight seem weird, since it's supposed to be done before the shave) 4-5 drops of a test-run mix of [extra virgin olive oil, castor oil, almond oil, pure glycerine, clove, cinnamon, aniseed(?!!)]. Whip everything up with the brush, get a smooth lather, wash my face for 30 seconds with warm water, apply the lather for a little over a minute & half & I get a comfortable shave with 2 passes (no BBS however). Wash off lather, rub alum block, 30 sec wait, wash/pat dry, a plain jergens moisturizer rub and I'm done. No gooey after effects of lather-mixed pre-shave. It feels nourished even if I do not apply the jergens cream & I feel smooth (not BBS-but not a problem).

Figuring out bear growth direction is my task for the next week when I revert back to the traditional 1 shave a day routine.:laugh: I know it's fairly traditional up to my jawline. Below that - no clue. I've been impatient and have not allowed the stubble to grow with my 2 shave a day regimen...but I mainly do a first total N-S pass. The second pass is nearly the same, except that I go diagonally from my sideburns to the tip of my mouth. Never have I experienced such a clean pass across the stubble. The tip of my chin and just below, is slightly annoying & I invariably get a burning sensation around some areas of the jawline...but still ..fine.

Apologize for the long long written primer about my non-traditional priming techniques involving mixing the preshave goo-mix into the lather, but I thought it would put things into perspective before I ask my question(s). I have already searched for it on the forum. I assume that someone must have mentioned it already, but I'm unable to find it.

A) People mention about blade life. anywhere from 2-5 shaves per blade with 3 passes. I am exclusively used to shaving with the the mach 3 (did have one satisfying shave at the barber's place), I don't ever remember trying to flip the gillette and shaving, since the only thing that I would end up with was probably a laterally inverted gillette logo. I use one side exclusively for 3 shaves (2 passes) & 3 days later, 3 more shaves with the other side. So, I get 6 comfortable shaves with the blade without even trying to experiment on it's longevity. Is it a routine commonly used amongst veteran shavers or do most people use both sides casually during a shave? It's nothing to do with being frugal. Blades are very cheap. I'm just curious.

B)I have already asked this to (user:beyboo), who's been very helpful and answered all my questions patiently, but are there any vendors here that have shipped cosmetic goods (shaving creams, after shave balms) to India on a regular basis. I might order things rather than depend on friends and relatives coming to India, but I'm worried that I might end up paying a fortune with shipping and extra custom duties. 'beyboo' mentioned that he had never paid anything..but I thought that asking it here on the board might get me responses from vendors who have shipped to India. The final recipients might have let the vendors know if any duties had to be paid. All I want to do is receive my items on my doorstep after just paying for shipping..and of course the price of the product. I sent something similar to nancy boy on the friday of last week, but I did not receive a reply.

Thanks! for all the assorted tips from badger&blade forums, thanks mantic, thanks beyboo, thanks corey (shaveblog).

Now, after seeing this video yesterday, posted by Joel of badger & blade, I'm really curious to try out a straight razor...Probably in a few months time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W44WFTfqzA&feature=player_embedded

Thanks!
 
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Welcome to B&B. Enjoy yourself here. I pay no attention to which side of the blade I am using. I typically get 3 to 4 shaves out of a blade.
 
I use one side of the razor until it's full of lather, flip and continue shaving until that side is all lathered up. Rinse and repeat until I'm done. I don't keep track of sides - just assume that randomness will win out and even up the usage.

With regards to how many shaves per blade - it depends on the brand - but I easily get 3 or 4 shaves out of every blade. Since I'm usually in a rush in the mornings I don't like to discover mid shave that I need a new one. So I try to remember to trade out blades every weekend and sometime mid week - usually the night before when I'm brushing my teeth before bed. This means that I usually go 3-5 shave shaves on a blade and generally have no problems.
 
one side of the face with one blade side, then reverse for the backhand. Longevity depends on the number of passes / length of beard growth / manufacturer. My only advice would be if you get tugging during a shave, swap blades straight away - no need to suffer!
 
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prettyuglyfoxymoron,

1. Namaste and welcome to the community.

2. Your complex alchemy mixing the ingredients of your lather may, in time, be what you settle on. However, it appears to me that you, as a neophyte, have introduced a wild excess of variables. I read nine constituents of your lather mix. I doubt anyone in the community, even the most experienced, uses that many.

Discipline yourself to one soap or cream, one razor, one blade, and one moisturizer for a full week, then change one, and only one, variable at a time and stay with the new combination for a full week. If you have the discipline, you will know what is working for you, what makes no difference, and what is damaging.

This is not a race. You have the rest of your life to develop your technique.

3. Most of us use both sides of a double-edge blade every day. We twirl to the other edge with each blade rinse. Blade wear will be even and you will still learn how many shaves you get from a blade.

4. Curb your enthusiasm. Shave only once a day. Your face needs time to heal between shaves.

5. There are many shave preparations from India that are rated highly in the Reviews section. We hope you will use them and post your impressions so we have the benefit of your experience.

Hope this helps.

Pogo
 
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Welcome to B&B!

As has been mentioned, blade longevity will depend on a number of factors including your beard type, how complete your prep is, and brand.

I have thick red celtic beard, which I understand to be a tougher type. I almost always shave after a hot shower and wash my face with Glyce Lime Oil soap to soften as much as possible.

With this routine I can use a Shark blade for two shaves comfortably, an Astra for three with no problems, and a Feather for four or five. Others I've tried aren't sharp enough to get me through one. A blade sampler's the way to go to find your own "perfect" blade.
 
Thanks everyone! for replying!.

Pogo

2. Your complex alchemy mixing the ingredients of your lather may, in time, be what you settle on. However, it appears to me that you, as a neophyte, have introduced a wild excess of variables. I read nine constituents of your lather mix. I doubt anyone in the community, even the most experienced uses that many.

complex alchemy! - I'm still laughing!. & strangely, the mix that I concocted, does look like liquid-gold, with the extra virgin olive oil. The introduction of olive oil was something I assumed would would be beneficial. I had absolutely no idea that this was a common practice, until a search on the forum 2 days ago - led me to a host of pre-shave mixes, most of which had extra virgin olive oil & castor oil in varying proportions. All I have done is add a bit of pure glycerine to it for the slide. The introduction of clove, cinnamon & aniseed was just to temper the smell of castor oil. (I could not find any lavender oil at home:laugh:)

I have made a really tiny test batch, just in case the mixture did not work out for me. So, leaving the unconventional stench removers, the 3 basic ingredients (olive oil, castor oil & glycerine) are in tune with preshave recipe mixes already mentioned on the forum.

The only difference here is that I just whip the whole thing up with my cream instead of applying it onto my face as a pre-shave..& strangely, it seems to work for me with no discernible feeling of gooiness on the face once I'm done & it leaves me adequately moisturized.

4. Curb your enthusiasm. Shave only once a day. Your face needs time to heal between shaves.
:001_rolle advice taken. I just had one shave today. The DE shaving experience has genuinely been very different in a positive way. I'm trying to convert my cousin on to this practice, but he seems to be weird-ed out by my new shaving obsession. To irritate him further, I keep stroking my face in front of him (faceturbation as Corey calls it!). I even told him that one effortless slide across the chin would be enough to permanently convert him. But he's not buying any of my non-profit sales pitches.

There are many shave preparations from India that are rated highly in the Reviews section. We hope you will use them and post your impressions so we have the benefit of your experience.

Will do that!. I know that Godrej products are rated pretty highly. It's just that I wanted a hassle free avenue to procure shaving products from abroad without paying a massive premium (if I needed to). I'm still waiting for a response from a vendor who's done it on a regular basis. Just want to be ready if the need arises.

Regarding longevity of a blade, I have already read many posts on this forum, where blades were rated using different specifications. I was only wondering if both sides were being adequately used (not overused). I remember asking the same question to another person on a music forum I frequent, someone who was partially responsible in getting me onto DE shaving. He used feather blades & said that each blade lasted him for a week. After I asked him about "sides", he said that he realized that he was underusing his blades & even quoted a figure like 50% (of actual life). Just wanted to know whether shavers were more regimented in their use of blades. Nothing to do with stretching it to their last shave.

Thanks everyone who replied & for sharing some info with a newbie! Really appreciate your time!.
 
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Yep... I use both sides each shave... I typically quarter my face and neck, lather up, use one side of the blade for the first quarter, turn around and use that side for the second quarter, rinse the blade/razor and repeat for the next two quarters, again using one side per quarter.

This way I get the same wear across the blade, and depending on the blade, I get 3 to 5 shaves (3 passes) per blade.
 
I have started to use only one side of the Feather blade per shave. I find that 2 shaves each gives me 4 very comfortable shaves. I can stretch it to 3 or 4 , but it will take a bit more effort, and it will drag on my skin going ATG.
 
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prettyuglyfoxymoron,

Many members of the community find shave oils supererogatory.

While you are learning, I respectfully suggest you not bother with them. Strip your technique to a minimalist approach.

When you have found the cream or soap, the brush, the razor, and the blade that work for you, then, if you want to bother, you can step-wise introduce frills.

Hope this helps.

Pogo
 
You are probably refering to shaves per edge, not shaves per side, as you would have to remove the blade and flip it over to get to side B. :laugh:
Anyway it think blade life varies a lot with beard toughness and technique efficiency. When I was young I got a month out of a Wilkinson SS or Gillette platinum! Now in advanced age my beard is tougher and I can see a drop off in performance after 4 shaves. The blade could shave for longer, but it would be a trade off in comfort and closeness for economy. I never know if I have used both edges the same amount of time, so when the performance feels to be going off I switch edges and sometimes get a few more comfortable strokes. I have not tried flipping the blade over to side B, but It may be interesting to try. I don't know if whiskers create a burr on the cutting edge like wood cutting tools get?
Happy shaving,
Russ
 
Ha!. Sorry, I meant shaves per edge - edge a/edge b.:laugh:. Shaving with the sides would probably be called a "3 hour massage reduction".
 
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