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No love from JR Fraser...

After reading numerous loving reviews about JR Fraser shaving cream, I went out and bought a tub of the Oriental Spice. The ingredients wowed me with the simple ingredients lacking parabens and other chemicals and the smell was so good I almost ate the damn stuff... but... I can't for the life of me get the amazing lather everyone talks about. I get a better lather from my Floris cream, Trumpers, hell even Proraso gives a better lather. Whenever I make a lather it always comes out rather runny, like I added to much water. That said though, upon applying it to my face, it starts to dry on the edges like I didn't add enough water. Furthermore I always get a really irritated face afterwards (despite the lack of chemicals). I've tried using both an Omega boar hair brush and a Fendrihan BBB.

So, lovers of Mr. Frasers cream... any ideas? I love the smell, I love the Canadianness of the product and I love the simple ingredients. All that's missing is the love of a good shave from it.
 
I use a goodly amount of cream, a generous "snurdle", and let the water drip from my brush, then apply the cream into the brush and being to swirl away in the lathering bowl.

I always get a good lather. Hope this helps. GTG allergies kicking in.
 
I couldn't figure this cream out either. Having used the Polar Ice cream with success, I figured the Oriental Spice would be a no-brainer. For whatever reason, I just couldn't get the Oriental Spice to do what the Polar Ice did so well. Another member here is using it with apparent success however.
 
To make things more complicated they just released a new scent called "Mosswood" which has my interest piqued... Dammit.
 
Boosters Mosswood aftershave smells out of this world.
I bet the cream does too.

JM Fraser's cream paired up with Boosters aftershaves
are a match made in heaven :angel:
 
What does Mosswood smell like?

Any way of explaining it to someone who hasn't had the opportunity of smelling either?

I love the original Fraser cream and am interested.

I'm assuming Polar Ice is good?
 
What does Mosswood smell like?

Any way of explaining it to someone who hasn't had the opportunity of smelling either?

I love the original Fraser cream and am interested.

I'm assuming Polar Ice is good?

It smells exactly like the after shave. :tongue_sm

It's a clean scent and the best I can come up with is the scent of a northern forest early in the morning.

Remember, I am terrible at describing scents.
 
Alright... so do you guys think that slight adjustments in my technique will eventually yield the perfect lather and I should splurge (well, $10 isn't really a splurge) for a jar of Mosswood? Or do you think that it's just not for me and I should PIF the jar of Oriental Spice I have to a friend of mine who would appreciate it? Bah....
 
Whenever I make a lather it always comes out rather runny, like I added to much water.

Hmm. I'm guessing you've tried all sorts of different water to cream ratios already. Sounds like you've got a bad batch.

I find Frasers to be slightly irritating if I leave it on my skin too long. It seems like whatever is softening the beard bothers my skin after a while.
 
The I don't own the Mosswood, but did get a chance to take a whiff a few days ago.

It reminds me of a Gillette deodorant my father used back in the early 80's.
 
I recently bought and tried the Mosswood, and I've run into the same problem: Can't get a good lather out of the stuff. I love the scent and all, and especially after reading several of the glowing reviews for the other J.M. Fraser creams I feel that I can't give up! I've tried a bunch of different technique combinations (wetter brush, drier brush, pure badger, best badger, boar, bowl lathering, face lathering, warm water, hot water, more cream, less cream, etc.), but I can't figure it out! Any help?
 
one thing i do notice with my tub of generic lime-scente frasiers is that unlike floris or TOBS where a pea-sized amount will yeild a bowl of lather, frasiers takes a larger amount, i'd say equivalent to a small almond.

mixed with a slightly higher than normal amount of water, i get easy lather which is slick and dense...but not particularly thick.

you might consider getting a spatula and mixing up your tub. i have no idea if there is anything in the booster-scented versions which could potentially help the ingredients to separate, but mixing it up certainly wouldn't hurt anything and might just help....
 
I recently bought and tried the Mosswood, and I've run into the same problem: Can't get a good lather out of the stuff. I love the scent and all, and especially after reading several of the glowing reviews for the other J.M. Fraser creams I feel that I can't give up! I've tried a bunch of different technique combinations (wetter brush, drier brush, pure badger, best badger, boar, bowl lathering, face lathering, warm water, hot water, more cream, less cream, etc.), but I can't figure it out! Any help?

What worked for me when I first started using Fraser's was more product (a snurdle and a half) than other creams and a pre-soaked badger brush that I gave one good shakeout to. I started lathering in a bowl and added some drops of water as I went along. It took a little longer to work than other creams but then the lather just exploded when I got the mix right.
I never have any problem face lathering. I load the once shaken out brush with the snurdle and a half and start lathering my wet face. If I need more water I just dip the very tips of the brush in water.

drandall is right. The lather is dense and slick but not fluffy.
 
Ok, I'm sure someone will say I'm shilling for the line but I LOVE J.M. Fraser products! I love their aftershaves but since we are talking about cream...well I started with polar ice shave cream and loved it. My barber uses nothing but Fraser products and the polar ice scent is just so refreshing. Just before Christmas I picked up the 16 oz jar of their regular shaving cream (light lime scented) and I love the lather I get! You could search for a very long time to find a better shave cream and spend a lot more money.

I face lather using the stick the brush in the cream jar and swirl method and have had no complaints.
 
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