I personally wont use Mama Bear anymore.
Yes it has been, is, and probably always will be discussed, as it is in this thread right on the first page of the soaps sub-forum.
Skip all the George F. Trumper's soaps. Their creams are great, but their soap is worthless.
It's a case of YMMV, or to put it another way "Bouquets & Brickbats"
BUT
Here's my "Hall of shame"
Soap
Monsavon Bol A Raser - Made in France
They call it soap, but I think it's more like Croap - although personally I'd miss out the letter "a" from the word "Croap"
I know a lot of people like it, but I found the scent to be sickly and cloying and I never once got a lather that I was completely satisfied with.
Just to prove it wasn't "just me"...
I never had any problems lathering with Proraso Red, White or Green soap
I've never had any problems lathering with hard soaps - including the infamous Williams !!
To add insult to injury, the lid is so loose that it will fall off if you blow on it, because it doesn't form any sort of a seal on the container, the moisture evaporated and the soap shrunk to half it's original size.
The last time I tried using it, the lather was worse than ever, with no glide or cushion whatsoever no matter how thickly I brushed it on, and as a result I had some of the worst irritation and weepers for as long as I could remember.
I made fresh lather with Proraso soap, made the best of a bad shave and because all the goodness had evaporated out of it, I threw the Monsavon into the bin - good riddance to bad rubbish.
Cream
Old Spice Original, Fresh Lime, Musk - Made in India by Rubicon
I love all 3 of the Indian made Old Spice aftershaves so I was looking forward to shaving with an Old Spice cream and finishing with the equivalent Old Spice aftershave...........
What a damp squib that plan turned out to be-
Although I can't fault any of the creams performance wise, but the scents were bland and insipid - none of the scents of the creams even vaguely resembled any of the Old Spice scents, the Musk was the closest, but only if used in quantities that are large to the point of being wasteful.
Performance wise, all 3 creams were similar to Nivea Mild, by coincidence the scent reminded me of Nivea Mild too.
In hindsight I'd have done better buying tubes of Nivea Mild from my local branch of Eroski Supermarket...
Even paying full price, I'd could have got 4 tubes of Nivea for around the same price as 3 tubes of Old Spice.....
Except that the tubes of Nivea are bigger !!!
Lider Classic - Made in Poland
I can't fault it performance wise, but the lime scent is so chemically and artificial it's almost sickly, coupled with the fluorescent pukey green colour it's positively gut churning to see and smell the stuff.
It still has it's uses though - mixed with any of the Old Spice creams, it makes a very refreshing cold water lather in summer during the July/August heatwave.
Goldex - Made in Portugal
Again, nothing wrong with the performance, but the lime scent is like a diluted version of Lider Classic, but also very sickly- especially coupled with the anaemic pukey green colour.
Also very useful for giving Old Spice creams a bit of scent.
Probably won't buy again-
Mitchell's Wool Fat soap
Tabac cream.
Very difficult to get a lather with a brush.
I can use it brushless, but prefer to avoid.