Has anyone used the Barrister and Mann Excelsior tallow based soap?
New, non-tallow Tabac reviews go in here
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Not the Excelsior but I do have, and use, the Barrister and Mann Reserve Lavender. Tallow based. Superb soap. Lathers easily. Very good initial and residual slickness. Nice cushion.
WSP Rustic Tobacco is a great soap that works wonderfully with all manner of aftershaves and fragrances, Tabac included.
The Rustic is a vegan soap. I also need to try the Formula T, which is tallow based. Yes, I have the Formula T Tobacco on the way.
Yep....already own that one and love it.
I have. It is an excellent base in my experience. It is softer soap, but an excellent performer
I'm a little late, but I wanted to thank @kingfisher for his very straight-forward, informative posts regarding the Tabac samples kindly provided by @ewk .
You know, if we’re suggesting non tallow soaps that somewhat resemble Tabac then…
Don’t mind me. I’m just being cheeky
Don’t mind me. I’m just being cheeky
Here's my opinion for what it's worth. First off...I've been using Tabac exclusively for years. Just Tabac. Love everything about it and see no need to use other soaps, so safe to say I'm a believer.
The non tallow version. Not the same. Not as good. It doesn't have the same cushion and feels like it's drying on my face if I don't hurry up. Add water gives less cushion. Smells almost the same as the tallow but with a fairly strong common soap smell in there with the Tabac smell. Mustyness is gone. Skin friendly wise it's as good as the tallow. No irritation or dry skin.
All in all a good shaving soap. Nowt wrong with it at all. The tallow was better.
Tallow Tabac 10/10
Non tallow Tabac 8.5/10
The end of an era. Crying shame. Ah well it's only soap.
The non tallow version. Not the same. Not as good. It doesn't have the same cushion and feels like it's drying on my face if I don't hurry up. Add water gives less cushion. Smells almost the same as the tallow but with a fairly strong common soap smell in there with the Tabac smell. Mustyness is gone. Skin friendly wise it's as good as the tallow. No irritation or dry skin.
All in all a good shaving soap. Nowt wrong with it at all. The tallow was better.
Tallow Tabac 10/10
Non tallow Tabac 8.5/10
The end of an era. Crying shame. Ah well it's only soap.
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JCinPA
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@luvmysuper Phil, this may be helpful for you.
www.barristerandmann.com
Apparently they have different soap bases and the ReserveLavender I have is because of scent. I like that soap, but rate it a 4.5 vs Tabac which is my 5.0 standard. The one you are trying may be closer to Tabac, if I read that article right. But they are very good soaps indeed.
On the Subject of Excelsior
Excelsior shaving soap represents a significant upgrade over the performance of our Glissant soap base and will last considerably longer because it's a much harder product. It produces lather similar to that of Barrister's Reserve®, but does not exhibit the gooey, stringy characteristics of its...
Apparently they have different soap bases and the ReserveLavender I have is because of scent. I like that soap, but rate it a 4.5 vs Tabac which is my 5.0 standard. The one you are trying may be closer to Tabac, if I read that article right. But they are very good soaps indeed.
@luvmysuper Phil, this may be helpful for you.
On the Subject of Excelsior
Excelsior shaving soap represents a significant upgrade over the performance of our Glissant soap base and will last considerably longer because it's a much harder product. It produces lather similar to that of Barrister's Reserve®, but does not exhibit the gooey, stringy characteristics of its...
Apparently they have different soap bases and the ReserveLavender I have is because of scent. I like that soap, but rate it a 4.5 vs Tabac which is my 5.0 standard. The one you are trying may be closer to Tabac, if I read that article right. But they are very good soaps indeed.
Yeah, I was looking specifically for input on the Excelsior base. I had read that link you put up and just wanted to see if anyone had tried it. From what they are saying there, all other things being equal, I know that I would prefer the Excelsior to the Reserve base.
There are many excellent tallow based soaps still out there. Exploration is half the fun.
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As with so much else in this game, experiences out there vary. I have one of the Excelsior-based B&M soaps, and if I'm being honest, I rarely find myself reaching for it. I use my B&M Reserve soaps (Cool and Lavender) all the time by contrast. It might just be the way I build my lather, but from a pure performance standpoint, I think I prefer the Reserve base.
Thank you!
So very true. I face lather, but I don't at all enjoy how PAA CK-6 and B&M Reserve bases lather up. That stringy stage before it's fully hydrated, bleh...I don't care for that at all. Which is hard because once you're past that, great shave, great post-shave. Last night had a great shave with the Excelsior base (Petrichor). There's a lot of love for those bases, which is great... they just don't work for me.
It's a good base. I like it. Slickness, cushion, and good post shave (without being "too much"). I've close to finished a tub of Seville and have a tub of Petrichor in the rotation, which was in summer hiatus for me.
You mean like this one I already posted on another thread?
There's not much change in appearance except for the list of ingredients. Note the old version lists potassium tallowate, sodium tallowate, potassium cocoate and sodium cocoate while the new version lists potassium laurate and sodium laurate.
Actually, they took the BEAUTY out of the new TABAC "ORIGINAL".
Quite fitting.
TABAC BEAUTY, the one you want in your den.
I liked Tabac and the scent but it irritates my face so I won’t be trying the new. I’ll stick with Arko (no pun).
