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2 more from JNS. Will get on these this weekend. Ozuku asagi san lv 5+ and Kouzaki lv 4.5.


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Both look very nice!! The Ozuku asagi looks just like mine....You'll have to give us the full report as you start to use them!!! :thumbup1:
 
Any tips? I will as soon as i get some time.

The Ozukus are very hard stones. I didn't buy into the whole "harder stones are more challenging to use" thing at first, but then I got the Ozuku and found that it kinda takes some practice to get the hang of (versus the Shoubudani Type 100 which is very easy to use)...I found that the Tomo that came with my Ozuku Asagi was no good (it was killing my edges), so I ended up going with a Kiita tomo that worked much better...So the tomo compatibility is definitely important I think...
 
There have been very few razors that I can finish on my Ozuku Mizu Asagi (5+) with water only. Certain razors edges just fall off and are terribly harsh while others are the best of the best. Finishing with slurry is a hit 100% of the time.
 
Anybody ever experiment with rubbing a shuobodani on a harder stone as a tomo? Or similar experiment/experience. Im sure the rubbing of the stones together would also put a nice surface on both so no harm done I would imagine.
 
You can use anything as a tomo when it comes right down to it. It all depends on what you want it to do. Do you want it to raise slurry from the base stone or use the slurry from the shobu? Whichever stone is softer will be abraded and slurry produced. I do sometimes rub my nakayama against my ozuku to raise nakayama slurry on the base stone and get wonderful results.
 
Anybody ever experiment with rubbing a shuobodani on a harder stone as a tomo? Or similar experiment/experience. Im sure the rubbing of the stones together would also put a nice surface on both so no harm done I would imagine.

A Tomo Nagura can be a piece of a stone or the whole stone. When using a much larger Tomo, be careful about the pressure, it's easy to get carried away and you can scratch the Awase.
Which mine the Tomo comes from is irrelevant. What matters most is whether or not the Tomo 'matches' the Awase in a purely functional sense. Sometimes, the 'best' Tomo is not a piece of the Awase, but one from another completely different stone.
Nakayama Asagi Tomae Awase with an Ozuku Kita Namito Tomo could very well be a perfect match.
The only way to know is to try it.
 
Hello gents, just got 8 vintages from ebay today , set a bevel on a chippy edge, hit the shuobodani, tenjou mejiro tomo. Decided to finish water only. Got some resistance as usual but continued after 40-50 laps, she smoothed out, ended another 40 laps felt like glass. Great shave. HHT3 or so off the hone. So I guess if you keep honing on water, that resistance stops, as it did for me. That was something else I read recently. However the edge wasnt sharper or smoother than off the tomo with very light slurry. So it didnt bring anything to the shave or edge. Or at least nothing that made the extra 100 laps worthwhile. Maybe on another stone.
 
Sounds good. Keep trying things and experimenting - these puppies don't come with instruction manuals.
 
Hello gents, just got 8 vintages from ebay today , set a bevel on a chippy edge, hit the shuobodani, tenjou mejiro tomo. Decided to finish water only. Got some resistance as usual but continued after 40-50 laps, she smoothed out, ended another 40 laps felt like glass. Great shave. HHT3 or so off the hone. So I guess if you keep honing on water, that resistance stops, as it did for me. That was something else I read recently. However the edge wasnt sharper or smoother than off the tomo with very light slurry. So it didnt bring anything to the shave or edge. Or at least nothing that made the extra 100 laps worthwhile. Maybe on another stone.

Good stuff! Yeah, I noticed that I prefer the edge when finished on light slurry as opposed to water...I guess it's different with each stone though...
 
Good stuff! Yeah, I noticed that I prefer the edge when finished on light slurry as opposed to water...I guess it's different with each stone though...

Certainly true- Skill has a lot to do with it too. Takes a while to learn the stone and nail down the progression and technique.
 
Try the Kousaki after 1k with slurry, if it is anything like mine you should be able to get coticule like shaves right after it. If you want more sharpness use the ozuko after.
 
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