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Never really been in to pens, but...

Ok guys, coming here first because B&B is my go to site these days. Never really been in to pens well because my handwriting is horrid (cue the medical field). I received a PIF one day with a hand written note telling me to enjoy my PIF. At the bottom it was noted what ink and pen the fine gentleman used. I thought it was neat.

Some time went by still not really thinking to much about it. I have seen this subforum, still really not much thought went in to it. Well, last weekend I went home and was cleaning up some stuff in my old room back home because at the end of the year I am going to be getting my old bedroom suit when I move, by the way I do not live that close to home anymore. Basically just preparing it to be loaded and moved when the time comes.

As I was cleaning and going through stuff I found an old fountain pen that I do remember getting when I was in high school. I'm pretty sure it was at a store like Office Depot. I can't for the life of me figure out what brand it is. Looking through the internet for the past hour or two I think it might be a Montblanc (basically just going off of designs). There is no indication of what brand this could be and the only engraving is on the NIB stating "Irodium Point Germany." So after looking up and figuring this was the closest design I was amazed at the prices of the Montblanc pens, thinking no way my dad would have spent this much on the pen.

This is what I can remember of the pen:
Would have been bought late 90's, 2000, 2001
Would have been bought at a store, not a pen store, but some place like, if not, Office Depot
Would not have been very expensive know my dad, around the $50 mark, but more than likely much lower
No sign of branding anywhere, but the style seems to fit the Montblanc the closest
I do not think it is a knock off of whatever brand it maybe, since internet shopping was not big then, atleast to us none or very little if at all.

Here are the pics of the pen, any help will be appreciated from a fellow wet shaver:
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My intentions are not to sell this pen, really just see if anyone around this fine forum has any idea what it is. I plan on trying to get some ink and firing this baby up. Suggestions on a solid ink will help too. Last think I can think of is on the plastic side of the behind the NIB with the ribs (feed maybe?) is a number 7 on it.

Thanks!

Edit: Sorry about the lack of quality in the pics, thats why I tried to describe the finer areas in more detail. Only have an Iphone and its better than the 1 digital camera I do have. May by my next investment.
 

Doc4

Stumpy in cold weather
Staff member
My intentions are not to sell this pen, really just see if anyone around this fine forum has any idea what it is. I plan on trying to get some ink and firing this baby up. Suggestions on a solid ink will help too. Last think I can think of is on the plastic side of the behind the NIB with the ribs (feed maybe?) is a number 7 on it.

It's almost certainly not a Montblanc ... if it were, it'd have their name/logo on if for sure. A lot of other pen companies have tried to imitate the "Montblanc look" ... kind of like "the Rolex of pens".

Looking inside the pen ... is there a converter inside to hold the ink?

What colour ink do you want to start with?
 

nemo

Lunatic Fringe
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Flush it out and try writing with it (once you get some ink of course). Unscrew the black section from the wood barrel, run some cool water through there, and check if it has a converter or a cartridge. Maybe take a pic of the guts for us.

Anyways, nice find! The "iridium point Germany" nib is rarely made in Germany but often do write smoothly. Welcome to the Nib!
 
Thanks guys, I really didn't figure it was Montblanc, just the closest style I could find.

Anyways put a little water through it and it pushed some old ink out of the tip. Didn't put any pressure behind it. Just filled the back of the feeder with about 4 drops and let gravity do the rest. It dripped out of the NIB into the sink after a few seconds.

Here is a picture of the parts that I have.

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There is a small post down in the feeder part, which I'm sure regulates the flow. Some I'm guessing this makes it a cartridge, not really sure what a converter is? I'll look it up.
 
Looking inside the pen ... is there a converter inside to hold the ink?

What colour ink do you want to start with?

Safe to assume this is a cartridge pen, never seen a converter, but this is all I can find.

As far as, inks go. I would probably just like a good solid blue or black, waterproof, all I would really want to do is for mailed letters, signing checks, or papers. I don't really have the handwriting for much else.

Thanks for the help everyone!
 
Standard cartridge will fit that. Go to the drug store and get one of the infant syringes. We also call them "snot suckers" like this http://www.infantsyringe.com/. I have about 3 or 4 floating around. you can cut the syringe to fit the pen.... fill with water and use it to flush the feed from the cartridge end.

You can get carts for the pen from either Indy Pen Dance http://www.indy-pen-dance.com/, or the Goulets http://www.gouletpens.com/. In about any color you want !!!... They could also help you with a converter for the pen so you could use bottled ink
 
If you want to PM me your address, I have a spare standard international converter I can send you. Some ink samples too.
Nice pen, enjoy it!
 
One of us...one of us...one of us! Glad to have you here on the Nib! The excellent hand-written notes with PIF's are just one of the many touches I love about this forum and I include them with mine.
 

nemo

Lunatic Fringe
Staff member
If you want to PM me your address, I have a spare standard international converter I can send you. Some ink samples too.
Nice pen, enjoy it!
Great gesture Dave, I was just digging around fruitlessly for some waterproof int'l carts to send, thanks!
 

strop

Now half as wise
I've made several fountain pens from kits and have been plesantly surprised at the quality of the nibs. If is seems a bit scratchy at first try scribleing a while on a brown paper bag. It will smooth it out nicely.
 
Alright guys, well I have some good and bad news. I received the wonderful gift that Dave sent me in the mail today. So I watched a video on youtube of how to properly load my cartridge and flushed before I put the ink in. Here is a picture of the goodies Dave sent me in the mail today! All I have to say is awesome.
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Everything was going great and I was so excited. I loaded some of the B&B 5 O'clock shadow ink in the converter inserted it into the fountain pen tip, and went to screw the nib, converter, and feeder into the body of the pen AND it doesn't fit! :a52:

So now here we go, because of the great generousity of Dave, in his honor of helping me out I will get a starter pen to put this great stuff to use.

Since I don't know a whole lot about fountain pens I will describe, if possible, what I do like in ball point to see if there are FP's that match what I look for.

Inexpensive: I'm not looking for $5 but would like to keep it around $20 (if thats even possible)
Nib: Are there thicker type nibs? What I mean is when I use a ball point I prefer med or 0.7mm tips. I don't really care for the scratchy very fine tips.

Other than that I'm game, of course I would like to use the stuff I was given
 
Don't give up yet. You can probably make something to fit the shorter space. Nemo posted a great cartridge hack a while ago but I can't find it right now. I had a similar problem with a couple of Platinum pocket pens so I adjusted the length of the converter as you see it in the instructions here:

http://www.stutler.cc/pens/converters/index.html
 
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What doesn't fit? Is the converter too long to fit into the body of the pen, or is it too fat? If it is too long, you can insert the converter into the feed, and line up the section on the side of the body to see how much longer the converter is than the body. If you just need a little height for it to fit in, cut a little of the knob on top of the converter down a bit. don't cut too much because you obviously need room to turn it to fill with ink.
I have heard of people doing this before to make converters fit in smaller pens.
 
In all honesty the length may be a tight fit, it could be a little too long but after messing around with it more it seems to be a little to thick (the converter). The pen has a slight taper in it and I think thats where the problem is, and the part of the converter that is to wide is the actual ink well not the knob. I will mess with it some more today to see if there are some "adjustments I can make to possibly get it to fit.

When I put the converter in it would make it all the way up to the threads, and wouldn't even catch the part of the threads to begin screwing. I will take a pic a little later on.
 
Sorry it didn't work out! Sounds like that pen will only take the short Int'l carts. They can be filled with bottled ink with a syringe, or using Nemo's cart mod like Nid said.
 
I found a pen in Tesco in the UK for £1 that is actually a pretty good writer and takes a standard international converter. Unfortunately, I have returned home, or I would pick another up. Are there any folks in the UK who could possibly post one over for our new friend? If shipping costs are an issue, I would be more than happy to cover postage.
 
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