Anybody have input - obviously seems like a very durable gun, and since I'm well stocked in 1911 and Browning Hi-Powers, this seemed like the next logical choice...I'll be working on getting to a range to test fire, but anyone have comparative feels for the grip angles etc compared to the 1911 and HP? My biggest issue with the Glock was the rake of the grip was so much more than either of the others, it just felt "off" when I'd switch to it at the range. How's the trigger feel out of the box? I'd assume smoother than the HP, but is it close to a "match" type smithed and tuned trigger? Other issues, common mods, anything that I should look for out of the box, sights, etc? TIA
Moved on from my Glock 35, thinking of a Beretta 92FS
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I can't answer your question but robar (iirc) can mod glock grips to closely match the angle of a 1911. http://www.robarguns.com/
One of the most accurate hand guns I've shot on a range was a Beretta 92FS Elite. If you like the 1911 I'm sure you like the Beretta.
Hey Grumpy, I have the same tastes as you. I have a 1911, BHP and Beretta 92. In all honesty, for my hands, the BHP feels the best. It just fits perfectly, period. I think it's the combination of the double stack mag making the frame a bit thicker than the 1911 and it is overall a bit smaller in size than the 1911 and 92. As far as a trigger goes, it's hard to beat the 1911. As you (may have) alluded to, the BHP trigger is not that great. The 92 trigger, while cocked, has play/room until it engages, but you don't feel any of the internals engaging like you do in the BHP. It's taken me a while to adjust to that while shooting it. Having these three in your arsenal it great, they are all equally accurate. My next handgun is the Glock. 9MM or .45 for me all the way.
I have a Beretta 92FS, a Glock 34, and a 1911. Of the three, the Beretta is definitely my favorite. The grip feels perfect to me. I've never felt a more comfortable gun. (Maybe a CZ 75.) I'm actually not much of a 1911 guy. Their grips feel too skinny and uncomfortable to me. The Beretta trigger is quite good also. In single action it is very crisp and light. Double action is heavy, but smooth. Using double action only, I can get 1 inch groups at 7 yards.
I only have two complaints about the Beretta. First, I don't care for the slide mounted safety. I actually moved to the Glock for IDPA because I kept accidentally activating the safety on my Beretta when I would rack the slide.
Second, I wish that it was easier to disassemble the slide and firing pin. The 1911 and Glock are super easy, but the Beretta has roll-pins that need to be pressed out. The Beretta slide is basically non-user serviceable.
Despite those two complaints, it is a fantastic gun. Accurate, comfortable, nice looking, iconic, fun to shoot, reliable. I think you will enjoy having one.
I only have two complaints about the Beretta. First, I don't care for the slide mounted safety. I actually moved to the Glock for IDPA because I kept accidentally activating the safety on my Beretta when I would rack the slide.
Second, I wish that it was easier to disassemble the slide and firing pin. The 1911 and Glock are super easy, but the Beretta has roll-pins that need to be pressed out. The Beretta slide is basically non-user serviceable.
Despite those two complaints, it is a fantastic gun. Accurate, comfortable, nice looking, iconic, fun to shoot, reliable. I think you will enjoy having one.
Another vote for the CZ-75 when it comes to a great feeling grip.
I dunno...after using Glocks and Sigmas for so long, I can't stand a gun with any sort of safety on it. I almost got a Springfield XD but the grip safety turned me off of it. Not sure if this will be of concern to you when converting.
It's a great gun. My wife loves hers. It IS a solid beast of a gun though... much heavier than what you're used to with the G35, but it does a great job at controlling recoil.
The 92FS and my 1911 are a couple of the few semi-autos that my wife can operate the slide.
She can't rack the G26 or XD9.
The 92FS and my 1911 are a couple of the few semi-autos that my wife can operate the slide.
She can't rack the G26 or XD9.
Safety use is of course optional, but the thing to remember about the 92FS, and IMHO, it's only drawback, the safety is a decocker, so that first shot after taking the safety off is a long DA trigger pull.
If you are used to revolvers, then the first trigger pull might key you into that mode and the next shot will catch you by surprise.
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weight isn't much if a concern, my edc is a dan Wesson cbob, so i am fine with a little heft, i never carried the g35, da with no safety makes me nervous...but the da/sa setup of the 92 might be a deal breaker
I'm thinking that under duress, the long DA pull of the first shot isn't going to be an inhibition.
I have shot this pistol a lot and it is very nice (Same as the M-9, military designation). In my opinion though it is to large and heavy for a daily carry
I think it's an alright pistol, but I think there are much better options out there when you aren't forced to use one in the miltary. I have probably 1000 rounds out of an M-9 while I was in the military and I hate the DA/SA of it. I just don't like inconsistencies when I'm shooting, and to pull from holster I didn't want to have to think about the trigger pull. For me, it lead me to striker fire when I left the military, and now own an XDm and a Glock 26.
Love my 92. You don't need to do much to them. Easiest mod for a better trigger pull is to order a D model hammer spring and swap them out. You can do this in about 5 minutes on your own. Lightens the pull in both DA and SA while still be reliable with everything. Other than that you really don't need to do much.
This is the truth.
I used my 92FS for about a year in IDPA. I also used it when I took a four day defensive pistol course. We fired 800 rounds over those four days. I always carried my Beretta hammer down, safety off, using the double action pull for my first shot. I honestly never noticed the DA first pull. It never caused me any problems, misses, or inaccuracies. Actually, I was one of the most consistent and accurate shooters in the class. DA/SA vs single action only vs striker fired vs double action only, is all just preference. Each option is extremely viable for daily carry, or for fun at the range. As with any firearm, you just need to be familiar with its operation, and practice practice practice.
The Beretta has such a nice DA pull, that it really shouldn't dissuade you from purchasing one, if you otherwise like the firearm.
The ONLY reason I switched from the Beretta to the Glock for IDPA was because of the slide mounted safety. Several times when racking my gun, I accidentally flipped on the Beretta's safety. If it weren't for that one thing, I would still be using it all the time. It is an excellent firearm.
I think the 92FS is one of the best looking guns around (not that that really matters). I owned the INOX version and despite it being beautiful I had to let it go. My small hands were no match for that 2x4 of a grip. I'm happy for those of you who have the mitts worthy of this gun.
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The 92FS is a fine gun, need bigger hands but it fits me very nicely. Not quite the same grip angle but not that off.
