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Along with the two soaps I ordered from Krissy at Prairie Creations, I got a nice bonus in the form of a soap sample.

I decided to make a mini shave stick from the sample of Spiced Rum soap, using a travel sized deodorant container to hold my homemade stick. I got lazy, and instead of grating the small puck I heated it up and pulverized it.

The results were pretty good, but there was more soap than I could fit in my makeshift mini stick. I put the crumbly leftovers in a small tupperware.

I decided to try the stick tonight, and it worked well. I looked at the crumbs in the tupperware, and decided to put a few in my scuttle, and lather them up...have to use up the leftovers, after all.

Between the face lathering and the extra soap in the scuttle, I ended up with a lather that was so "soapy" that it was almost goopy. There was a lot more product involved than with the lathers I had been building, but what the heck, gotta burn up them crumbs.

The shave with this gooey lather was superb. So breathtakingly good that it made me stop and think about what I had previously decided was acceptable.

I've been getting excellent results with Krissy's soaps, and with other soaps, too. I've been producing lather that looks like the lather pictured in the tutorials here. I think that all along, even though I've been getting good looking lather that shaves well, I should have been kicking up the amount of soap a notch or two, and paying more attention to how the stuff performs and less to how it looks.

I've been at this for awhile now, and if not for the soap crumbs I had to "get rid of" I might never have stopped and considered that more product might give me better shaves, because what I was getting already was darn good. I didn't know that amazingly good was just around the corner.

So, if you are working on your lathering technique, I say don't stop when the results look pretty. Experiment with more product. Don't let fluffy photogenic peaks convince you that you've plumbed the depths of what good lather should be.
 
I think I've come to terms with the fact that after a year my lather is still sub-par and that's the reason my shaves haven't been consistently good. It's never been slick enough. Maybe I need more product and more water.
 
Between the face lathering and the extra soap in the scuttle, I ended up with a lather that was so "soapy" that it was almost goopy. There was a lot more product involved than with the lathers I had been building, but what the heck, gotta burn up them crumbs.

The shave with this gooey lather was superb. So breathtakingly good that it made me stop and think about what I had previously decided was acceptable.
This is what I've been trying to describe in my other PC related posts as a slurry that the brush is charged with before transferring to a lather bowl. The resulting lather is the most stupendous stuff I've ever seen!
 
Yep.

Not too many soap lathering problems that cant' be solved with either:

1) more soap
1a) more soap
2) more water
3) more whipping
 
Yep.

Not too many soap lathering problems that cant' be solved with either:

1) more soap
1a) more soap
2) more water
3) more whipping

+1. I think most guys who are having soap lathering problems are, for whatever reason, trying too hard to conserve the product. Don't be afraid to use too much soap -- that's what it's there for!! Don't worry -- they'll make more (and, if not, hopefully you stocked up enough not to have to worry about it)!
 
I had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago. I have some Valobra Almond squished into an Old Spice mug (perfect fit) and the first time I used it I wasn't that impressed so when I decided to use it the second time I loaded the heck out of it, so much so that I gooped some of the soft soap right into the brush like using a cream - the results were (besides enough soap for about 10 passes) some of the nicest lather I have ever created and I had a really really nice shave. The soap went from a 7 rating to a 10 rating - so it was me at fault not the soap. Yup, more is way better which also justifies my soap and cream acquisition disorder!!
 
I had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago. I have some Valobra Almond squished into an Old Spice mug (perfect fit) and the first time I used it I wasn't that impressed so when I decided to use it the second time I loaded the heck out of it, so much so that I gooped some of the soft soap right into the brush like using a cream - the results were (besides enough soap for about 10 passes) some of the nicest lather I have ever created and I had a really really nice shave. The soap went from a 7 rating to a 10 rating - so it was me at fault not the soap. Yup, more is way better which also justifies my soap and cream acquisition disorder!!
 
+1. I think most guys who are having soap lathering problems are, for whatever reason, trying too hard to conserve the product. Don't be afraid to use too much soap -- that's what it's there for!! Don't worry -- they'll make more (and, if not, hopefully you stocked up enough not to have to worry about it)!

+1 for what Neil said. That was my issue at first, until I decided that I bought it, I paid for it, and I can use as much of it as I want to. Load that brush up well, then whip the heck out of it. You won't be disappointed!
 
It's funny the things you can learn when you get out of your routine.

A while ago I had a similar lesson learned using Col Conk soap. For some reason with the water here I cannot get the lather to last with this soap. In the bowl it looks great but not for long. I lather the right cheek and by the time I get to the left the lather on the right is just blah. It kind of goes flat like soda losing its carbonation.
One morning I didn't have the time to start from scratch with another soap so I decided to try shaving with it like it was. Turned out that it was losing the bubbles and foam but was still nice and slick. I got a great 3 pass shave with it. The only thing was I had to reload the brush a little and work up more lather between passes. Since this soap is so cheap I don't mind having to reload the brush more often.
This made me realize I needed to pay more attention to how the lather performed instead of how it looked. Now when I get a new soap I am more interested in how it feels and I don't hesitate to reload the brush if it doesn't feel slick enough.
 
interesting thread - I came to a similar conclusion (USE MORE STUFF) a couple of weeks ago... and my lather has improved 100%.

+1 to Neil's point - use it up - there's more... a LOT MORE... in the shave den!
 
The problem is that I'm already throwing away enough lather for the next day's shave pretty much every day. I don't know how much more product I should use when I'm already wasting about half of what I make.

Maybe I'm just the rare guy that uses enough already.
 
The only soap I have that I hesitate to waste is my tallow English Fern. I don't have a problem making a bowl full of anything else I use.
 
The only soap I have that I hesitate to waste is my tallow English Fern. I don't have a problem making a bowl full of anything else I use.

Don't worry. Some of this will be hitting the b/s/t in December, just as soon as I'm back in the States for Christmas.

-Andy
 
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I think I've come to terms with the fact that after a year my lather is still sub-par and that's the reason my shaves haven't been consistently good. It's never been slick enough. Maybe I need more product and more water.

Use a lot more product before you add more water. Do you load your brush up until it looks like the pictures in tutorials? I found that with some of my harder soaps I needed a stiffer brush then my B&BE, an Omega pro helped a lot. Also, some guys say that they swirled the brush 3 times around the puck and that gave them enough soap for a 3 or 4 pass shave. I have never been able to get good lather from that small of an amount of soap, I need to swirl the brush around the puck for about 30 seconds, or more. Good luck.
 
I think that a lot of people equate the form of good lather being similar to what comes out of a can. Not so! Good lather is much more dense than that, but not so dense that it's paste. So go ahead and be dense about it.
 
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