Animal Rights activists stealing lambs from the Kings estate in Norfolk,England, yesterday.
U.K. Government and businesses are terrified.
Even the rats are leaving.
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Mitchells Wool Fat Shaving Soap is no longer Tallow based
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U.K. Government and businesses are terrified.
Even the rats are leaving.
Well, my vegan PdP 63 is cheaper, smells better, and is easier to work with than MWF. I'm just saying....
This is true, but probably not for the reasons imagined.
The problem with reformulating from a Tallow soap to a Non-tallow soap, or from going from a Non-tallow soap to a Tallow soap isn't the gain or loss of the tallow, tallow isn't a magical substance, the problem is the reformulation itself.
In many peoples experience, mine included, the reformulation results in an inferior product.
That's plenty of reason to moan IMHO.
Hopefully the reformulation doesn't change the soap to garbage like so many others have done.
Current indications are promising, but time will tell.
Could you give me a couple of examples? I'm just curious since it must have happened before my time here. I never was interested in Speick and some feel that the new Tabac isn't that bad. Apparently Haslinger was able to pull it off. I haven't tried the three I just mentioned.
MWF is now tallow-free? Well, I've been using tallow-free soaps only in the last years. Therefore, this is a good reason for me to try it!
PdP 63 is on my radar to try. Maybe sooner rather then later.
Someone who has tried the new version (there's at least one and I suspect many more during the coming week) should start a thread for reviews of the non-tallow MWF. I am tempted to get a puck myself just to see...I mean, it could turn out like veggie Haslinger, which is one of my favourite soaps!
The 70s era for the shave soap makes sense. The font and design of the ceramic bowl the soap comes in looks very 70's
Thankfully I saw this I’ve been eyeing this soap but couldn’t justify the price of this in the US now I think I’ll just pass cause tallow was a selling point for me. On second hand I just tired deceleration grooming tallow blend soap and boy is that base a winner cheers ya’ll.
Well, to be fair, whether or not you personally are interested in Speick is moot. It's still the worse off for its reformulation. I'm happy for you that it wasn't a regular for you so you don't have the sorrow of losing a good soap.
Tabac may be an adequate shaving soap now, but it isn't Tabac. The scent changed, the ingredients changed, the color changed. It's a completely different soap. There is no more Tabac. There's a soap out there being called Tabac, but it has nothing in common with the Tabac that was beloved here. It lathers differently and it performs differently.
Haslinger was not without tribulations, some of their earlier versions were not well received, but they have worked on improving the product, to their credit.
Art of Shaving is another that was a great soap, and now is just another meh product in a huge field of meh products.
DR Harris and Czech & Speake went through an initial phase of reformulation that resulted in poor performance, but they did an about-face and corrected the problem.
As I said, it isn't the presence or lack of tallow - it's putting out a soap that has been reformulated and doesn't perform as well as the product it replaced.
At least in my opinion too when Fine had to make the switch their new tubs are not as good as the pucks. But if I remember correctly they were forced to change as the maker of their soap base had closed down.
Thanks. I recall reading about the last three, but did not know they had problems. You're right in that I've got plenty of tallow free soaps that perform quite well. I don't like the smell of Tabac, so I personally won't miss it. MWF is just another soap to me.
I like my old Fine but was scared away by the transition.
Penhaligon's -- yes, before your time.
Trumper's -- before my time I think.
Both turned to rubbish.
Where do you get it cheaper? I’ve seen for about 15 usd, MWF refill is 10 or less
That was the issue with Czech & Speake, who had to change because they reportedly used Valobra.
Valobra... now there's a soap I miss!
Not once the vendors catch on.
IB had 30 pucks the other day, now they have 8. I'm guessing they have never sold this much MWF so fast.
They should bring back the original Klar Kabinett... a veggie soap the performed great!
Ah yes, that's a good old soap.
It's funny, all creams are "veggie" as far as I know or at least "tallow free" and no one cares. To be honest, I don't even look at the ingredients on creams. Proraso tube, GFT, TOBS, CF and a few others are all top notch.
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I just remember it being cheaper for me. Looking at my Amazon purchases the PdP in a tin was $12.99 while the MWF refill without a container was $12.05, but the PdP is larger. I bought the MWF refill because it was the cheapest I've seen at $12. Where have you found it for $10 or less?
At connaught shaving. But you are right, it depends where you’re buying from. It’s very expensive for me to buy from Amazon or US stores (shipping)
