Cannot remember if I said this before. So, here it is, Mind your fingers...
I've used the just previous iteration of La Toja, and even without tallow it was good.La Toja is several reformulations away from tallow at this point. The most recent reformulation removed more of the minerals and added sodium chloride (aka table salt).
Edit: if anyone knows where the tallow version can still be found at a reasonable price, I wouldn't mind knowing.
The other way round. The creams are no more and the stick remains, as of now. I got this from La Toja directly. However, my local brick and mortar is no longer able to get any of them, cream or stick, any longer.I've used the just previous iteration of La Toja, and even without tallow it was good.
The stick seems to be phased out and not just reformulated in favour of shaving creams only in their brand.
I stand corrected.The other way round. The creams are no more and the stick remains, as of now. I got this from La Toja directly. However, my local brick and mortar is no longer able to get any of them, cream or stick, any longer.
MWF? What MWF? This is a nightmare of Kafkaesque proportions. "M" is from the grotesque metamorphosis. What about the rest? You ask. Well..., it is no longer MWF but currently MLF. Mitchell's Less Fat.
Soon to be released the Kale and Spinach soap, with a hint of carrots, as a middle note.
Was never under the impression MWF was made with mutton tallow. Don't believe it was ever advertised as so. Never heard anyone mention it till now.Tallow is fat. MWF never had mutton tallow just beef tallow & lanolin? There's soaps with actual mutton tallow and lanolin; Hags, Stirling electric Sheep etc. Seems like most shaving soaps have lanolin, all Stirling soaps do. In my mind if MWF didn't have mutton tallow it was already misleading.
Exactly right. Please report on the new soap. So many posts about how the tallow one was very difficult to lather. I had no trouble with it but will love to hear from those who try both.Why do I get the impression that some people aspire to, but actually have never tried Mitchell’s Wool Fat (MWF)?
The way they bemoan the loss of tallow suggests that so far they have only tried Mitchell’s Cow Fat (MCF) or Mitchell’s Bovine Fat (MBF).
It’s the wool fat , guys, not the tallow!
Besides, I have never been a fan of Kafka (had something to do with my literature teacher at that time being a singularly unpleasant individual) and I rather wait until the tallow-free MWF puck that I ordered has arrived and I have actually tried the new soap.
B.
This is true... The lanolin is very important, and it's yet to be seen how important the tallow was. But, it's no longer the traditional product we all knew and loved!Why do I get the impression that some people aspire to, but actually have never tried Mitchell’s Wool Fat (MWF)?
The way they bemoan the loss of tallow suggests that so far they have only tried Mitchell’s Cow Fat (MCF) or Mitchell’s Bovine Fat (MBF).
It’s the wool fat , guys, not the tallow!
Besides, I have never been a fan of Kafka (had something to do with my literature teacher at that time being a singularly unpleasant individual) and I rather wait until the tallow-free MWF puck that I ordered has arrived and I have actually tried the new soap.
B.
A little bit of investigating (as I did long ago) makes that clear, but at first glance, I can see how many might think "wool fat" indicates mutton tallow. I think that was my own initial impression before reading up on it, actually.Was never under the impression MWF was made with mutton tallow. Don't believe it was ever advertised as so. Never heard anyone mention it till now.
It just might have something to do with the fact that some of us can remember when a lot of different non-artisan soaps had tallow bases.Why do I get the impression that some people aspire to, but actually have never tried Mitchell’s Wool Fat (MWF)?
The way they bemoan the loss of tallow suggests that so far they have only tried Mitchell’s Cow Fat (MCF) or Mitchell’s Bovine Fat (MBF).
It’s the wool fat , guys, not the tallow!
Besides, I have never been a fan of Kafka (had something to do with my literature teacher at that time being a singularly unpleasant individual) and I rather wait until the tallow-free MWF puck that I ordered has arrived and I have actually tried the new soap.
B.
The correspondence received from Mitchells by @Mens Room Barber Shop contained the following text:
"The bath and hand soaps continue to use the same base, with the tallow base being the best for that purpose."
Unless I misunderstand, Mitchells will continue to use tallow in their bath soaps and hand soaps, it is only the shave soap where tallow has been removed. It seems unlikely to me then that the change is for ethical or regulatory reasons. Additionally, if it were a regulatory issue then no soap, by Mitchells or anyone else, would contain tallow. It seems more likely that whoever makes MWF shave soap can no longer obtain tallow based noodles at a suitable price point, in other words it is purely a cost decision.
Which ones are hard tallow shave soaps?There are many artisans making soft shave soaps with tallow. But I prefer the hard tallow shave soaps. I only know of one artisan that makes a hard tallow shaving soap. The massed produced hard shave soaps cost about a third or half of the artisan soft shave soaps. I'm stocking up on the hard tallow shave soaps now as I don't see them available in the near or distant future.