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Thank you both for the input!

@Sotiris_A is it harder than Haslinger Schafmilch (if you have tried it) ?
Because I have not encountered problems with HS (at least with my very limited experience- I am just 2 weeks in wet shaving) and I can get a nice lather from HS soap in the same amount of time I do with Cyril Salter cream (but prefer to face lather the HS, instead Cyril seems easier to bowl lather).

Since you mention Haslinger in this MWF thread I am obligated to mention the simply amazing thing that happens when you grind some Haslinger Schafmilch together with some MWF in a 50/50 ratio. Very easy to lather, quite possibly the slickest soap I've ever used, great cushion and post shave feel, and a scent when combined that far surpasses either one alone. And it has a name. The Fat 'As. Give it a try. I have over 50 soaps and creams and The Fat 'As is hands down the best of the bunch.

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Is [MWF] harder than Haslinger Schafmilch (if you have tried it) ?

Physically MWF is much harder than Haslinger Schafmilch. It's on par with Tabac and nearly as hard as old-formula DR Harris and other triple-milled soaps. While Schafmilch is definitely a soap and not a croap, it's not one of the 'very hard' soaps, probably because the water content is higher and the formula has more K-salts.

I find both to be excellent and trouble-free performers.
 
Thank you @147_Grain, I am really intrigued to use it today (have not tried any other tripled milled soaps).
The smell is of an old school ''cleanness'', I adored it!
At least if I cannot make it to work I will take sniffs of the soap as a wake up call and use the bowl for other soaps that may head my way.
 
MWF is excellent IMO. You will find it is
very high performing with a mild, soapy scent; though I can detect a faint gaminess to it. I think that’s the lanolin but it might be the tallow, I’m not really sure.

I think it worth mentioning that it can be a bit temperamental. That is to say to get the most out of it you have to use it regularly. It likes to be deeply moisturized. I get my best results when it is holding enough water that it will expand and fill, from side to side, the ceramic dish you can get for it.

It also benefits from a good brush. I Don’t really use synthetics but you might have a problem loading if you do.
 
Thank you both for the input!

@Sotiris_A is it harder than Haslinger Schafmilch (if you have tried it) ?
Because I have not encountered problems with HS (at least with my very limited experience- I am just 2 weeks in wet shaving) and I can get a nice lather from HS soap in the same amount of time I do with Cyril Salter cream (but prefer to face lather the HS, instead Cyril seems easier to bowl lather).

It's been more than a year since I used the Haslinger Schafmilch (new, non-tallow version). I think it was faster to lather, definitely less hard and a bit less slick. Great soap but I prefer the MWF.
 
If the Palmolive is working well for you, I’d stop there unless you are bored and want some variety in your routine (and if you’re tired of rubbing a shave stick on your face). That’s a top tier soap as far as I’m concerned.

Being someone who burns very easily, a bad reaction from a new soap can mess you up for several days if you’re not careful. Been there done that, not worth it. Always do a patch test in a small area first, if it burns you’ll likely know right away.

Some people react badly to the lanolin in MWF and it does require a different approach to lathering, similar to Williams from what I’ve read although I’ve never tried Williams so cant confirm. I use Palmolive way more often than the Fat though, it’s less work to get going and it’s so much cheaper. The Fat post-shave feel is where the magic lies though, nothing else comes close. I love the scent as well but it’s hardly subtle. It smells like lemons and damp earth to me. One of the nicest fragrances out there, very complex yet relaxing.

Soap Commander is next in quality but made in the USA, probably cost you a bit to get it shipped but worth it. They have a fragrance free version called Integrity. Very natural soaps with minimal ingredients and you can feel it when it’s on your face.

Haslinger is a great soap too. Very mild scents and a very protective and slick lather. The Aloe is very nice and very good for my skin.
 
I have acute contact dermatitis. Face gets bumpy and ears go ablaze. My allergist said theres not test for it. I just have to avoid what triggers it, which is most scents. Anything with the word fragrance or Parfum means no for me. I'm not sure if you and I talked about this. I cant use MWF, not sure why.

Stirling unscented with beeswax is great. Light citrus smell that fades quickly. Soap commander integrity is fantastic too.

You are right, parfum and fragance are big triggers. I realized, when I use soaps and creams with very light scents, like Palmolive stick, my skin feel better. I just read some reviews about MWF, and everybody says that it`s very good soap for people for sensitive skin. I have nothing with lanolin in ingredients, so, the only is to try and see, if I have allergy or not :)
I may look for Stirling and Soap commander, but shipping is more expensive :(

If the Palmolive is working well for you, I’d stop there unless you are bored and want some variety in your routine (and if you’re tired of rubbing a shave stick on your face). That’s a top tier soap as far as I’m concerned.

Being someone who burns very easily, a bad reaction from a new soap can mess you up for several days if you’re not careful. Been there done that, not worth it. Always do a patch test in a small area first, if it burns you’ll likely know right away.

Some people react badly to the lanolin in MWF and it does require a different approach to lathering, similar to Williams from what I’ve read although I’ve never tried Williams so cant confirm. I use Palmolive way more often than the Fat though, it’s less work to get going and it’s so much cheaper. The Fat post-shave feel is where the magic lies though, nothing else comes close. I love the scent as well but it’s hardly subtle. It smells like lemons and damp earth to me. One of the nicest fragrances out there, very complex yet relaxing.

Soap Commander is next in quality but made in the USA, probably cost you a bit to get it shipped but worth it. They have a fragrance free version called Integrity. Very natural soaps with minimal ingredients and you can feel it when it’s on your face.

Haslinger is a great soap too. Very mild scents and a very protective and slick lather. The Aloe is very nice and very good for my skin.

True, I like variety, and just looking for something that works, except current soaps which I can use - like Palmolive. Interesting, Palmolive classic cream react bad on my skin, because has strong scent :(
 

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You are right, parfum and fragance are big triggers. I realized, when I use soaps and creams with very light scents, like Palmolive stick, my skin feel better. I just read some reviews about MWF, and everybody says that it`s very good soap for people for sensitive skin. I have nothing with lanolin in ingredients, so, the only is to try and see, if I have allergy or not :)
I may look for Stirling and Soap commander, but shipping is more expensive :(


I understand completely. The nice thing about soap commander is the size of it. Its 6 oz!
 
Hi all!

I am looking for a different kind of advise in regards to MWF.
I just received my first ever one (edition with MWF jar) and I have read that to get the best out of it it needs around 24 hours to be dipped in ionized water-so that it will moisturize, expand and practically occupy all space of the jar.

Anyone done that with successful results or it puts the soap in some kind of ''danger'' to dissolve?

Most any soap (except the extremely soft ones) when new would benefit from adding about a 1/4" or less of water for about 5 minutes and allowing it to soften the top of the soap. Pour it off and it will be easier to transfer soap from the puck easier.

I had a hard time lathering MFW for a while and then suddenly it lathered as easy as Tabak, know for its easy lathering. I really enjoy MFW. You should try it and see if it causes any allergy issues for you. I think you will love it.
 
First shave yesterday night with MWF.
I tried to follow my standard routine, so as to have as less variable altered -I used EJDE89, Astra SP, F.A Stout brush (the setup I am using most of the times). At this point I should state that I am new to wet shaving, almost 2 weeks, have had about 10 shaves.

Showered, dipped MWF and Stout in warm water for around 5 minutes.
Then load it with the intention to do it there is no tomorrow. Well, it seems that is was not needed. After around maybe 10 swirls on the soap it looked like it had picked up a decent amount so I proceeded with face lathering.
Holy smokes!! It has a fantastic, very soft and creamy feel. Done 3 (WTG/XTG/AGT) passes and the leftovers where enough to shave for at least another 3.
After seeing a few videos I understood that the lather was kind of thick so will add water in next trial latherings to see what better I can achieve.

To cut a long story short, best shave ever. Not prefect yet (had some nicks/cuts when AGT- so I may need to use some different blades) but almost non existent ''burning'' and red spots.
I dunno if it was due to MWF or that my technique is getting better but it worked like a charm. What took me by surprise is the ''cleanness'' it felt afterwards.

Super happy with the product, I will leave Haslinger and C.R.Salter cream at side for now and focus on MWF to get a better understanding of it.

Thank you all for the advice!

P.S. Next time I will try to remember to take some pics.
 
After seeing a few videos I understood that the lather was kind of thick so will add water in next trial latherings to see what better I can achieve
Trouble with youtube videos is that most of expert Gurus there are either making a porn lather, enough to shave an elephant or creating lather so thin/runny that you can see the pink cheeks.
Every soap lather has a breaking point after which it will lose the 'slickness', if you keep on adding water. If your lather is thick or if you have overloaded the brush, lather will be much 'drier' to give any slickness benefit we all seek from a shave soap. Also remember that if you load just enough soap but keep on working with lather making, that will result in a dry lather because you are whisking air into the lather, it fluffs up nice but drier and not slick enough.
The good lather is somewhere between the two extremes. Load just what you need, make lather that is neither too thick/fluffy because you have overworked with brush or too runny because you added too much water.
MWF is very forgiving soap and can take lot of lather especially if you have soft water. My ideal lather on MWF is when during shave the foam caught by razor guard is slick and 'wet' enough to slide down under its own weight in about 7-10 seconds, if you hold the razor still.
 
MWF is an excellent soap but if you have lanolin reservations might not be the best one. What about one of the unscented artisan soaps without lanolin? Stirling might be a good one to try.
 
Martin de Candre Natural. You will gasp at price once you see it. Well not so expensive for many shaves out of the pot. Few but quality ingredients. Promise is that the soap pot will last for very long.
 
I echo all of the love for MWF here. Try it you will love it, and just treat it like any other puck.

Another simple, clean and luxurious soap is L’Occitane Cade shaving soap. Can’t recommend it enough. (Although I like MWF even better!)


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Trouble with youtube videos is that most of expert Gurus there are either making a porn lather, enough to shave an elephant or creating lather so thin/runny that you can see the pink cheeks.
Every soap lather has a breaking point after which it will lose the 'slickness', if you keep on adding water. If your lather is thick or if you have overloaded the brush, lather will be much 'drier' to give any slickness benefit we all seek from a shave soap. Also remember that if you load just enough soap but keep on working with lather making, that will result in a dry lather because you are whisking air into the lather, it fluffs up nice but drier and not slick enough.
The good lather is somewhere between the two extremes. Load just what you need, make lather that is neither too thick/fluffy because you have overworked with brush or too runny because you added too much water.
MWF is very forgiving soap and can take lot of lather especially if you have soft water. My ideal lather on MWF is when during shave the foam caught by razor guard is slick and 'wet' enough to slide down under its own weight in about 7-10 seconds, if you hold the razor still.

Perfectly explained!!
 
Perfectly explained!!
Thanks, I have been wet shaving for so long that it comes instinctively now. Never given it serious thought before but I feel many people struggle with correct whisking time as per the soap characteristics and waste much time fretting over brush, razor or blade type.
 
Every soap lather has a breaking point after which it will lose the 'slickness', if you keep on adding water. If your lather is thick or if you have overloaded the brush, lather will be much 'drier' to give any slickness benefit we all seek from a shave soap. Also remember that if you load just enough soap but keep on working with lather making, that will result in a dry lather because you are whisking air into the lather, it fluffs up nice but drier and not slick enough.
The good lather is somewhere between the two extremes.

Second try today with a ''fast'' morning shave.
Used room temp water and loaded the soap less than previous time, again face lather. Felt better but I think still a little more dense than what you describe as
neither too thick/fluffy because you have overworked with brush or too runny because you added too much water

MWF is very forgiving soap and can take lot of lather especially if you have soft water. My ideal lather on MWF is when during shave the foam caught by razor guard is slick and 'wet' enough to slide down under its own weight in about 7-10 seconds, if you hold the razor still.
I will try this during the weekend to see. The water here is kind of hard but with relatively high chlorum content (thus we are drinking mainly bottled water).
 
I will try this during the weekend to see. The water here is kind of hard but with relatively high chlorum content (thus we are drinking mainly bottled water).
Why don't you try using a cup of bottled water for the lather making? I think MWF just shine brightest in soft water. That way once you know the potential of MWF, you already have it benchmarked and quickly understand the difference when used in hard water.
 
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